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monzakaz1748ySaw it just from news...feel for you very much. Stay safe please....or take a boat to here for a week.
Wishyoubest and hopecully you are out of the office by now...
A very conserned neighbour over seas... -
@Ashkin we haven't yet established that it is imported. It might very well be an internal class.
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@Ashkin Noone can know who is with violent intentions. Neither local person nor foreign. 😕😕😕
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@Ashkin Hmm, we've had two 'terrorish' attacks over the past five years in the netherlands and both were native dutchies :/
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@finenthusiastic I can be wrong here but I think that she mean getting people into the county with importing, I don't think that was supposed to be a joke. Correct me if I'm wrong @Ashkin!
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@finenthusiastic Hmm... I'll wait until I hear if she never it to be a joke but I see your point
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Root797278y@linuxxx not exactly a joke, but made with programming terms because of the venue.
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@matanl I get your point. Hundreds of people die everyday, especially in the poor developed countries. And no fucks ate given for them by media. It's always the same. As long as it's news and has revenue it will be shown in media. After that, it's history.
One of the best examples I know of is Fukushima and their reactor. They transmitted non stop videos and pictures of it for one week. After that no one was interested in it. Even though the problem still exists.
Terror attacks have gone back over the last years. That's a fact. The reason why they seem to be more often is that media allows us to share the information way faster and more efficient than 20 years ago.
It sucks. But it can't be undone. Hoping doesn't bring you any benefit. Hope is just the human way do deal with fear. Hoping everyday that it would be the last terror attack, it doesn't change anything. -
matanl26448yWe removed the whole discussion so it can be inferred from your comment.
@SirWindfield hope is the long term solution and surveillance is the short term one, saddening as it sounds. Hope gives motivation to people to be more moral, to accept and listen to the different among us, to help the weak. This statistically does prevent terror. Otherwise everyone will be stuck in their own butts and care for their narrow interests and the world will be a battlefield as it has been for the last 2000 years. Historically speaking, this is the most peaceful time of humanity in the last few thousand years (I have academic references to that) -
@matanl I get your point. But I am not sure if hope can really prevent terrorism. At least not in the way I understood it. Surveillance is a better option imo. I hate surveillance but using it correctly could prevent events like that. Reminds me of "minority report". Something like that (if working properly) would be more valuable as hope I guess...
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matanl26448y@SirWindfield but it could also be used for bad purposes. Dictatorship is a recent instance of bad use of surveillance. I prefer more thorough and less temporal tools if available
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@matanl true that. As I said, if used correctly. It's the same as communism. In theory it should work. In practice it doesn't, because there will always be people that are more equal than others.
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@matanl Sorry I don't want to hijack the rant but surveillance (or, mass surveillance) is not the answer. Paris attacks, they blamed encryption but the attackers communicated through texts months before already and the intelligence guys didn't see it.
Targeted surveillance, fair enough! -
@linuxxx sorry for confusion, I didn't mean mass surveillance, that would be full retard mode. But targeted one can be an effective tool to prevent such things.
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Just want everyone to know that the aftermath so far is amazing! The usual imagery in the media after these kinds of events are semi military police fingering nervously on their assault rifles at every street corner.
Not what happened here. The police has acted promptly but really sympathetically! We've seen loads of images of police taking time to help old ladies over the street and talking to kids about what they've experienced.
The authorities and the entire community has shown an amazing clarity and certainty, and I truly believe that there are not enough trucks in the entire of Sweden that would ever make us change our ways.
Historically, we'll look back at Daesh as nothing more than an annoyance. Like the fly that bugs you when you try to sleep.
Take care and stay friendly to anyone 😀 -
@siljamicke very well said. The job of terrorism is to instill terror. If even after failed attack they manage to make people afraid, then they are successful. It feels very refreshing to see such resilience, and spring back attitude.
I see some countries take action out of fear and do not take steps to solve the problem from root. (laptop ban is such example).
So. Kudos. -
zshh38488yThanks everyone for your kind words. Terror truly is a horrible thing and I don't wish what happened upon anyone. Luckily no one I know got hurt, but it was a scary experience knowing I was only a few hundred of meters away from where people got killed.
I'm thankful for communities like devRant. Keep staying awesome everyone ❤️
We just had a terror attack here in Stockholm. I'm stuck in my office. Stay safe everyone and take the time with your loved ones.
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