Every time😔

And the whole question is "how can I fix nullpointerexception"

I see both sides.

Stupid questions are annoying to have repeated but at the same time don’t volunteer to help answer questions if you cant handle stupid questions without be a cunt.

I usually get upvotes on mine because they are actual bugs in the framework or language and nobody can quickly downvote them like that (though I'm sure they'd like to) 😈

@Stuxnet

no question is ever stupid. The person doesn’t know something and they’re asking it and as a manager or someone more experienced it’s our job to respond to them and not act like a dick.

BUT….

Stack overflow unlike popular belief isn’t a place to ask questions IMO even though yeah you’re literally asking a question.

It’s a place to centralize knowledge that isn’t found in documentation.

The edge cases
The weird behaviors
The unknowns

@TwentyMinuteMan Respectfully, you are incorrect. There are plenty of stupid questions and a shit ton on SO.

Downvoting repeated or bad questions is why you can still find the answers you need on StackOverflow.

So true, this happened to my super specific question about SimpleSAMLphp
At the end I solved the issue and posted it as an answer to my ignored downvoted question

@Nanos don't need musk, just wait. It will vome with time. Boomer retirement wave.

@Nanos wait a little longer, so until 2030.

A lot of people use downvotes to mean something like "this is a basic/junior" question which is dumb and discourages new people entering the field at a time there is a shortage. Maybe that's what they want but it's pretty shitty in my view

@Oktokolo then there should be some way of controlling the questions that show up in searches without shitting all over the hopes and dreams of people new to the industry or even just the site

@PeterDCarter stackoverflow isn't a safe space but the place to go for factual answers to actual questions. Up/down-voting is the way to control in which order search results containing the keywords and tags are shown.

Downvoting normally is done without any insulting or mocking involved - so i don't get, where that "shitting all over the hopes and dreams" comes from. Learn to deal with rejection - especially such minor ones.

@PeterDCarter how is the shortage defined? The amount of Job offerings with unrealistic requirements? Remove them and see how many are left.

Also most companies are so bloated they collaps sooner than later.

@Oktokolo this sort of right-wing deal with it thing I don't hold with tbh. Personally I remember about 8 years ago I was just starting out. I was extremely poor at the time picking up freelance web work for pennies working on a £300 laptop that literally could not run tools like Visual Studio or Atom. I also couldn't afford any of the paid resources online or go to conferences etc so I had little to no knowledge of how things work in industry. I remember vividly asking questions on there and getting unexplained downvotes. I remember the attitudes which were massively centred around industry insiders and I remember very strongly that this was a place that didn't want to assist me in learning about its myriad rules, spoken and unspoken. I powered through that and am now finally doing pretty well and edit review queues, answer questions and generally consider myself an 'insider' but I have never, never forgotten how it felt to be that new kid.

@max19931 it seems to be a point of general consensus. I don't go a day without messages from recruiters and when I decide to leave a place I get interviews immediately and job offers shortly afterwards. I don't think I am that amazing as a dev so this alone seems evidence of a shortage to me. My current place have been looking for a suitable dev for months and can't find any.

@PeterDCarter I know what it feels like to be a noob - i started to learn coding on a C64 (64 _kilo_bytes of RAM, 1 _Mega_hertz CPU speed on a cathode ray tube monitor). There was no syntax highlighting, no internet, no free or even affordable courses. I learned by reading old tomes from the public library and trying stuff.

And that sortof still is the way to do it today: Search and read yourself. Then experiment. Then search and read more. And then ask specific well-defined questions on StackOverflow. And that questions will definitely receive upvortes then.

The occasional troll exists on stackOverflow too. But most of the time, downvotes indicate that the author was too lazy to do a minimum of own research and/or write a conscise on-point question.

Check your privilege.

@Oktokolo I certainly wouldn't have called myself lazy at that point. Quite the opposite. But I suppose we simply differ in our experiences in some forms or others...

I recall being utterly mentally exhausted after expending all my free energy trying to figure out exactly what it was SO wanted from me at that point.

Perhaps that was my privilege?

@Oktokolo but yeah, I guess because when you programmed you had less good hardware in general that's pulling yourself up by your bootstraps and the kids today are just lazy and entitled, right?

@Oktokolo or perhaps my privilege was learning to code while I could barely afford a roof over my head and every minute was a living stress hell wondering how I would balance paying bills and eating with finding the time to code to pull myself out of where I was?

That privilege right?

@Oktokolo maybe check yours instead, eh?

@PeterDCarter Hey, you whined about how hard it is today to start on crappy hardware with a lack of online courses when you don't know how StackOverflow works. I just proved logically that these things are strawmans.

But if you don't have time to read and experiment because of struggling with basic survival - yes, that actually is a thing that matters a lot. It just has nothing to do with your original arguments or StackOverflow.

Sorry for the privilege thing - you really sounded a lot like a Karen to me with your demanding attitude and jumping to rightwing accusations.

@Oktokolo I was talking about how it feels to live in poverty while putting your soul into coding to lift yourself out of it. Sorry you couldn't relate.

@Nanos If you don't like a moderated (by community or otherwise) platform, you can still use one of the other platforms.

I am pretty sure that it only works so well due to the censoring and voting-based prioritization of results. But it should be easier to build something like StackOverflow without the voting and gamification behind it. So there probably is a clone offering unlimited freedom somewhere out there...

@Nanos This goes in the same direction as your question: https://superuser.com/questions/...

@Nanos Honestly, the real and true answer to the RAID-Problem is: Ditch the hardware RAID and use Windows' software RAID support. You can be pretty sure that it will keep working with the next Windows version.

Hier ist eine von Google empfohlene Anleitung dazu: https://windows-faq.de/2019/08/...

@Nanos Small communities can get by with one or two admins that also happen to do the moderation once in a while. But StackOverflow has 18 million users. At that scale, traditional moderation would cost a shitton of money.

Wikimedia's moderation model works good, but it isn't resilient against "lunatics take over the asylum". StackExchange has found a model that offers some resilience against that too by making power depend on upvotes - a method that scales with the user base.

@Nanos Homeless devs just don't use Windows. Linux doesn't care about how often you have Internet or whether your hardware has been made in the last three years (Windows 11).

@Nanos Now that i think of it, for a homeless person the best computer would be a PDA (alias "smartphone") just because of the form factor alone. The best OS would probably just be the Android (rooted or not) that came with the device. App store of choice would naturally be FDroid.

Coding on a PDS isn't fun - but being homeless in general isn't fun and a laptop is another bulky and fragile piece of equipment you have to somehow keep under your head or in the sleeping bag when sleeping under the bridge or in a homeless shelter.

Internet is available for free via WLAN at some public places. Power might be a bigger problem when trying to avoid the shelters. But otherwise, you could charge your PDA there.

P.S.: I never reinstalled my Gentoo and i only reinstall the gaming machine's Windows for major version updates. Linux and Windows have become stable beyond believe. Even when the GPU driver fucks up, Windows just keeps working (and just restarts the driver).

its about choosing an attractive avatar and username