Please learn the fucking difference between a text editor and an IDE. I dont give a shit aboyt your super duper complex vim package manager supreme deluxe edition ITS STILL A DAMN TEXT EDITOR YOU FUCK.

@santartine you do realize this place is called devRANT right...?

@RazorSh4rk You're wrong, vim and emacs are much more than simple IDEs.

If you accept the challenge and learn to use them you will laugh at those guys who think that their pathetic IDE is so smart. But it's just as smart as the devs that build it. And think about it, most IDEs are used, because you have to use it, because the circumstances forces you to.
You have to use your IDE to press F7 for the build, because most of the time vim or emacs hardly support todays complex workflows altogether, but nobody forces you to write the code within this IDE before the build.

Try it and you will encounter things you never expected to be possible, or stay with your IDE and rant about things you do not want to understand.

@ddephor you missed the point of his rant. No matter what you add to Vim it is still a text editor. You can make it 1000 times more efficient (for you) than any IDE but it will still be a text editor. Same for emacs sublime atom visual studio code and many other text editors with a zillion plugins.

This legit made me laugh, haha!

@ddephor yes and manually adding classpaths in vim so so fucking convenient

Simply get the best of both worlds with using an IDE of your choice and install a vim plugin. Of course there have to be a such a plugin for that IDE. I'm using Android Studio and many of the Jetbrain IDEs with IdeaVim plugin.

"Please learn the difference between a wrench and pliers. I don't give a shit about your super duper complex pliers' supreme deluxe configurable notches IT'S STILL PLIERS YOU FUCK."

Huh, so search and replace still makes you sound like a tool. 😞

Seriously though, figure out and use your favorite tools. But lecturing others on their choices just makes you an elitist jerk. Don't be an elitist jerk.

@Ashkin how is he elitist? If I was working with a mechanic and he didn't know the difference between a wrench and pliers, id be mad af too. He's just saying that people should know their shit.

@Ashkin again you are missing the point. He isn't saying an IDE is better than a text editor, just that they are not the same thing so stop calling text editors IDEs.

They are not just text editors. Look at emacs, it can be just a text editor, but if you want, it can be a file manager, a web browser, a database manager, today even a window manager. If something des not exist, you can write it by yourself.
You don't have to use all this stuff, if's you decision what pushes your productivity. But calling vim and emacs just text editors misses the point as well.

Every so often I see people doing every day work very complicated instead of learning the right tool.
But it's the old problem of 'If you only have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail'

@ddephor giess their websites miss the point completely then

I've never met anyone who uses Vim who doesnt understand that it is a text editor and not an IDE

@Graystripe17 havent been on devrant for long i guess

I don't understand how you can say nothing you add to vim can make it an IDE. IDE's contain text editors. So surely there must be some combination of features you can add, to go from text editor to IDE. What is the cut off that makes it not an IDE? If I can code, receive autocompletion, navigate, build, execute, debug, run tests, etc, all from my "text editor", what am I missing from this development environment, which is integrated into one tool which would make it a real IDE in your eyes?

@DrEmann you very well can add all the zillions of plugins to vim and give it all the functionality of an ide, but at the end of the day I can open vim and type my grocery list, save it as a .txt file and be done. With an ide you can't do that because everything is project based. Ide's contain text editors but they aren't text editors in the same way vim or sublime etc. are.