Article about "best chromium alternatives"

- First is opera
- Second is Vivaldi

Fucking zero brain cells. Entirely braindead. Not a single god damned thought behind the eyes.

Falkon?

Nothing wrong with Vivaldi tho afaik?

@100110111 except that it's also based on chromium

Yeah... We're very close to having no alternatives at all.

Which would be an apocalypse.

theres actually a browser called vivaldi ?holy shit there is. since when ?

@AvatarOfKaine since 2016

@IntrusionCM The issue is that even if therr are alternatives, the market share of chromium is so big, they can basically enforce whatever standard they wish, it's not like the average monkey user cares about more than having websites work on their browser

@Drunkzee Yes...

Google did this already several times.

But all in all, the future of web development is in my opinion already an apocalypse.

JavaScript is unusable, TypeScript just JavaScript repackaged (solves many problems, but transpiling only can take it so far)… an alternative is not what anyone would care for. NPM is one of the worst implementations of package management possible.
Dreno doesn't fix it - as it doesn't implement any package management at all.
So JavaScript ecosystem is a broken mess.

Many praise Wasm as it allows to run _anything_ in the browser.

But theres a catch - fragmentation. I guess it will be interesting to see how the future develops, but on my opinion it's currently grim (for a lot of reasons, not only these listed here) - and in the future it will be just way way way worse.

@IntrusionCM the typescript dev experience leaves much to be desire as autocomplete hints only show up for frameworks someone has made a ts prototype for.

I think ts would be better if they just made an execution module for it in the browser

@IntrusionCM the tone of your commentary is so very realistic because it's so grim and contemptuous of programming tech and so devoid of upbeat tempo lol

In the end, those are only tools

Good, bad, slow, fast, those are only their constraits

You can build shit performing code in C++ and unsafe code in Rust just as well as fast Python and stable Javascript

Maybe the focus should be changed towards enforcing practices, not technologies

Firefox and pre-Chromium Edge are pretty much the only usable ones, Firefox is the best one hands down

Firefox and obscure webkit based projects are really the only options afaik

@griffi-gh @justice210 you trolls or smth? Firefox the best? That piece of garbage?

Don’t take me wrong. Back in the day, it was in a league of its own - but it went downhill fast.

@100110111 Firefox is good since the last major rewrite (Quantum), it also uses less then 500mb of ram with 10 active tabs

Just a reminder that number of tabs has not much to do with memory consumption.

@100110111 @100110111 We're talking about non-chromium based browsers. Since basically every other* mainstream browser is Chromium based, it's the best by default. Also, in terms of privacy, it's actually a pretty good choice.

* Safari isn't, but Brave, Vivaldi, Opera, Edge, etc, all are.

@justice210 are we though? Like the fun here is that depending on the grammatic abilities of the article’s author and/or the context, the phrase can mean three very different things: alternatives to chromium-based browsers, alternatives to the browser named Chromium or alternative chromium-based browsers. Obviously, if they meant the first option, the author was braindead, and at least I can’t think of a single non-chromium browser that is any good, really. If they meant the last option tho, it’s a very different proposition, and it seems like the list might be pretty spot on…

@100110111 It was the second, and I was still making fun of that exactly. "Alternatives to chromium (except it's just chromium in a new skin)"

@AlgoRythm was it one of those auto-generated alternatives sites, or did someone actually write an article like that with some thought?

@electrineer it kinda seem auto generated but that's exactly the writing style of most "top 10..." journalists

@griffi-gh how about if those tabs have videos or graphical assets ?