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Root825992yThat would be it.
Same solution as slow logins in a domain environment: reducing the excessive roaming data transfer. Not sure what windows is doing with the user’s temp folder in a non-domain env, but whatever. Windows hasn’t made sense like ever. -
What the heck, I've never heard of that. It wouldn't surprise me the slightest if Microsoft had a conspiracy with drive manufacturers about this. After all, they've had questionable practices before. More likely though, it's something more stupid and not as sneaky.
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@electrineer They always have had questionable business strategies, and questionable solutions.
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@Root It is Windows Pro, just not on a domain. But it pisses me off that it has family settings and shit in the Pro version. It is not the stupid home edition. Main use for pro now is stopping updates.
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If you use windows 10 and don't use an SSD at this point that is just shooting yourself in the foot with slowness. Back around windows 10 update 1903 or so there was an update that killed win10 performance on spinning HDDs. SSD does bring back the performance that windows previously had prior to that update and then some.
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Voxera115852y@Nanos strange, I had Windows 10 up to about 1.5 months ago when I upgraded to 11 and both got me to desktop in quite a bit less than a minute.
I do have an SSD though.
But 15 minutes? Not even my dads old one was that slow and that was slow.
With 15 minutes startup there must be either som program that does a lot on startup or some driver that is having problems with hardware.
Like if you have either a driver that is not really compatible or which is trying to talk to hardware that you no longer have and is causing timeouts. -
Voxera115852y@electrineer I know what MS said ;)
But I am pragmatic, much of the programs and games I play only work on windows and I cannot say that I have had any problems with 11.
Yes they moved some settings around and you had to tinker with the actionbar to realign it to the left but after that, not a big deal. -
@Voxera After deleting the temp folder it is less than 5-10 seconds now. Still might be worth looking into.
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Voxera115852y@Nanos that is often the case, at least it used to, but since windows 10 it has been fast for me and my computer is about 3 years now and as a sev I do have a lot of things installed.
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Voxera115852y@Nanos I rarely bother with things in event log unless I have something that interferes with daily usage, then I go digging.
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Voxera115852y@Nanos but the actual cores make all the difference, moderns cpu’s gets more done in the same number of cycles and often have more cores.
And more advanced instructions can shave a lot of work.
But yes, that must have been a real beast when it came out. -
Voxera115852y@Nanos I doubt the CPU is the main bottleneck for startup.
Also, xeon is a server/work station CPU, and being older it might not have some features dedicated to fast start, like using SSD for loading the most important things.
Are you running windows home/pro or server?
That could also affect startup, especially server where boot performance for the desktop probably is not a priority :) -
Voxera115852y@Nanos ok, yes fast start did have som problems early on but it is also a very big part in a fast booting windows machine so without it boot will take time.
But I do remember some colleague that had corruption problems with his machine some 7 years ago when we first added the ssd disks for it.
Today you do not need a separate ssd and I think its generally more stable.
The knowledge base for fixing stupid shit in Windows 10 is abysmal. I had a slow login that seemed to be progressively worse. I had searched in the past about this. The suggestions ranged from getting an SSD to reinstalling Windows. None of them addressed the issue. I had removed some startup programs thinking that might be the issue. It was not. I finally found some obscure mention by some guy that said: delete the user temp folder. So I did that. Now it takes almost no time to login. I think the only delay is the steam stuff in the background.
Of course all the official Microsoft suggestions were total shit.
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