Gamers Nexus has a really unique benchmark for the new AMD GPUs where AMD actually manages to pull ahead of Nvidia:

What about average FPS / USD ?

Also the name is : AMD Radeon™ RX 7900 XTX

Not XFX crap...

But what is the fuss about the name ? Do we hear complains about Volvo ? using xc40, then ex90...

@Oktokolo They also have that benchmark, sure.

@Grumm That doesn't add more Xs, and AMD's naming scheme is outright dumb. The 7900 XTX is the successor of the 6900 XT, and the 7900 XT of the 6800 XT, but the latter was $650 at launch.

So AMD tries to deceive the customers while hiking the price from $650 to $900. All of that while having a dGPU market share of just 10% in Q3/22. These stupid mofos really think they are in a position for such a move.

Me + excel can make you all the dream graphs you want.

Reminds me of apple’s gpu charts.
Literally “1,2,4,5”. They know their users are too stupid to understand anything beyond simple numbers. Specifying the unit you’re measuring is too complicated.

@Fast-Nop So new technology cannot have a higher price than older technology ?

Not sure if some people realize how complex it is to make these new GPU chips.

These are not just single wafer products anymore.

They are combining 2 chips into one.

And I assume they also follow the green team regarding prices.

You see the same in smartphones. Samsung as putting his prices higher each year because Apple increases the prices. Yet Samsung is a little cheaper.

@Grumm No, new tech should not increase in price because that's not progress. I paid around $1000 (adjusted for inflation) for a 50MB HDD in 1991. So a 2TB HDD should cost $40 mio today, no?

Also, the chiplets are so that AMD saves cost. They have no other benefit over a monolothic design. It's just that AMD thinks they can claim that saving as margin while delivering a half-assed product with buggy drivers. They cannot follow Team Green with pricing because Team Red hasn't done their homework.

@Fast-Nop Yet going the HDD route, SSD's cost more than HDD.. Why ? they should be cheaper to make no ? Less materials and all...

As for AMD, who make all these drivers, AI cores, someone had to find a way for it to work... You can't forget all the R&D that goes into making stuff like that. And most are not working for free ;-)

Btw, this is a just a nice discussion, I don't care who is best or faster. I search always for the best price/performance. (Nexus phone, nokia 8)

And yet so far it was always team red who won that battle.

@Grumm Doesn't change the fact that the chiplet tech is not anything technically useful feature - it's a price reduction tech, and that should translate into getting cheaper.

Also, yeah, drivers and stuff costs money, but AMD can't even get basics like video playback right. They overhyped and underdelivered, and as the one trying to catch up, they cannot afford any missteps.

Intel can get away with that for now because ARC is experimental anyway and not regarded as actually competing product, but that's not where AMD is at.

Not a good year for AMD - first the market flop of Zen4, then down to 10% in the dGPU market, now the flop of RDNA3. They need to get both better and cheaper.

@Fast-Nop But they managed to get in the laptop market. More and more laptops available with Ryzen 3 cpu's.

Also their server line (Epyc) is doing pretty good.

Not all their products are for 'gamers'.

@Grumm AMD is also losing market share in the laptop segment, and that's because Ryzen 6000 by and large didn't make it to the market. Especially the interesting 6800U is hard to find except in some 13" joke laptops.

Instead, AMD tries duping customers with old Zen2 chips re-branded as Ryzen 5000 and even worse with the upcoming Ryzen 7000 mobile. I have no idea what AMD is smoking.

The only market segment that AMD didn't manage to fuck up (yet) is servers.

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