I don't know if I'm projecting but I think my manager never agree with any idea I present to him. I had to bring an urgent implementation to VP for him to accept it. I feel like we, as a the team, stuck with whatever tech stack he chose, whatever he feels comfortable. No improvement, no challenge, no stat, no data; everything we do is just based on his feeling about things. He's not even 30 yet, but I feel like talking to a stubborn 60yo everytime I discuss an idea.

Devil's advocate:

Improvement and challenge are up to the developer to pursue on their free time. Work is for making money for the company with as little headache as possible.

If you want to show that using a novel element in a working system is a worthwhile use of time and money, you have to do work on your own time to show that what you're asking is possible without disrupting everything.

Integrating a new and untested framework or library into the system is a very quick way to introducing bugs and other problems that were solved a decade ago by the framework that, while boring, has been proven to work.

No one wants to spend the weekend trying to fix something they are totally unfamiliar with. Especially if they have something that already works and were prevented from using it for artificial reasons.

@cuddlyogre Yeah, I'm just naive thinking I can grow more than just javascript in the company.

@cuddlyogre where ever i worked there where slots for exploring technologies. Because it benefits the enployer on the long term. Hoping the devs will bring innovation in there free time is stupid because it won't happen. Except they innovate their own start up an be gone.