So the quote for my much needed new kitchen has come in.
* quietly sobs *

Where did you order from?

@ScriptCoded it's a local company. It's only a quote, nothing ordered yet.

I'm convinced of their decent quality but...DO you have any spare change?

Maybe I'll set up a gofundme page for first-world problems.

Oh for smug middle class problems

@AvatarOfKaine lower middle class thank you :)

Currently with no working oven and really dodgy wiring. And no heating in the biggest room in the building...so...mould

~7y ago my kitchen (furniture + tech + labour) cost me ~5k€. And now I'm slightly sorry I took a 200€ cheaper oven.

How much is yours?

@netikras furniture, tech,labour.......€23k :(

At €5k I would have gone for the more expensive oven :) If I'm paying a lot for a new kitchen I don't want to deal with broken parts for atleast 10 years

@ojt-rant oh wow.... Where are you from, Switzerland? :D

23k€ for a kitchen... damn. I could buy a house for that much (without a kitchen, poor condition, but still a house)

I never got why a kitchen has to at least cost as much as a new car (and who buys new cars anyways).

Go for a DIY solution or bolt standard parts in place and caulk the seams. Less pretty but also an order of magnitude less pricy.

Kitchens in general are worth investing into energy efficiency.

In the long run, they pay for themselves.

Also, depending on how much of a kitchen wizard you are, having good extraction is also a must.

@Oktokolo nothing in my damn kitchen is standard or normal, that's the problem. I'm fairly certain they used a blind possibly drunk guy to build all parts of it

@netikras close, a bit to the right :)

@CoreFusionX yeah, that's why I can't really get the cost down any further. Kitchens have to be robust, safe, efficient and reliable - just like a good peice of software...finally this post is relatable here.

My kitchen was 15k and I love it.

I would get anything between 5 and 10 k €
...

Depending on size / "quirkyness" (e.g. slanted walls make absolutely no fun) etc.

But 20 k € ?

Given your reaction regarding money I'd assume it's a rather small kitchen...

What the hell...

I knew that costs have risen up due to material shortage, but 20_000 plus for a regular kitchen... Sounds completely unbelievable.

I paid for my last kitchen with roughly 50 m2, dishwasher, oven (high end with pyrolysis), glass ceramic cooking surface (all 3 above 400 euros, the oven was I think > 600 euros) and a *lot* of storage (wall height of 2.75 m :)) I think 6000 - 7000 Euro. And my favorite, a ceramic kitchen sink. The kind of that you cannot destroy unless you really drop an bomb on it. Cause they are the only ones who not only last, but are easily cleanable without looking like shit after a year (kitchen sinks made of steel are my personal nightmare, especially when having hard water)

With delivery, construction, installation of electricity / water etc.

Would be really curious how that price came together, cause it sounds like someone is ripping you off .... Deeply.

The kitchen was by the way designed with an expert, was really worth it.

The expert was pretty nice lady, that explained everything and made sure that the common faux pas didn't happen (e.g. non opening cabinets due to overlapping doors).

She didn't rip me off either... Might be an interesting nit bit: They had faucets (yeah. just the fucking faucet, nothing else) for up to 700 Euros. Mostly because of brand name. I was really shocked.

@IntrusionCM 10k for a kitchen in 2023 is only really possible if you have a kitchenette or you're not looking to do any major reworking of pipes and cables (and naturally the walls in my house are made of super thick concrete).

Also did I mention I live in an area rapidly becoming known as "Expensive-ville".

I've asked to review the electrical furnishings - surely I can get the washing machine and oven down in price a bit atleast.

@ojt-rant ah... That explains a lot.

So it's not just the price for kitchen and installation, you have to do plumbing?

That makes sense.

Usually you don't need plumbing, so I'd guess very old house or e.g. like in america "questionable" material like lead in the pipes possible.

@IntrusionCM "questionable" is a good term to describe the material, the methods and the position of many things in my house.

For example, a light switch positioned so close to a wood burning fire that the electrical socket and the surrounding wall gets hot (not just warm, but hot).

And of course the drain pipe which appears to be a mismash of plastic, rubber, some oily property, potentially lead and whatever else they found remaining when they had finished fitting the outdoor drain pipes. There's a crack in it somewhere which means water drips out of the pipe, down the wall and lands in the cellar. The last owner "fixed" this problem by drilling holes in the floor to drain the water away. I sh*t you not.

Keeping this old thread going:

Update - new kitchen is in...

Electrics are NOT in....

The water does NOT drain down the sink

There are 3 areas in the pipes where water is dripping out!

Wrong taps.

The room already needs repainting after the scuff marks from the builders.

Oh, and side note, the new bathroom we had fitted 2 years ago has been allowing water through to go under the shower basin. Only now has the mould started to show up. So now we're going to have to drain water from the outer side of the bathroom wall (via a 40cm hole in the wall and floor) replace the flooring and the door frames that now have mould in them and fill it all in with new putty....and extra points to me who noticed a loose screw in the drain about 6 months ago, accidentally preventing any more water from leaking...because my fixing it makes it unprovable that they were to fault and therefore not elgible to be fixed on the house insurance.

Fuck

my

life