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Another Rust drama 🤷‍♀️

https://gist.github.com/fasterthanl...

I wanna note that they resigned blazingly fast.

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    “But then, part of me can think of a very simple way to prevent that from happening again: the Rust project as a whole needs to be better, and communicate better.”

    Yeah, no shit 🤷‍♀️

    “If your codebase is bad, you just have to write better code.”
    I guess if my performance as a programmer is bad because of depression, I must just stop being lazy.
  • 0
    @kiki If the entire leadership of the Rust project has depression and this influences their ability to do their jobs they should resign.
  • 1
    But it seems that the core problem here is precisely that too much is being done. Rust didn't urgently need a new trademark policy. They could've taken their time, or waited until someone less delusional came about to help. There simply wasn't the kind of pressure that would force an organization to publish that nonsense.
  • 1
    And this ThePHD fiasco, if there was actually something so critical and urgent that a keynote simply must be canceled, they should have published a tweet-sized note. If not, it should've been kept, precisely because canceling something like this is a statement they probably don't want to make.
  • 1
    My problem isn't that the foundation communicates too slowly, or that they act too quickly. It's the combination of the two that makes me actually worry about the future of an objectively useful open-source project that would otherwise easily have the necessary dev effort to keep going.

    It's kind of impressive how they can endanger something so optimal.
  • 0
    @lorentz The problem is that Rust has been like that since day 0. When Google adds a new feature to Go, they're like "we have 1000 projects written in Go, and we estimate at least 30% will benefit from it". Meanwhile, Mozilla is like "we added 50 new things to Rust, because our community thought they were cool and people volunteered to implement them". You can build publicity and community that way, but you can't build a good product, and when people realise that, they start leaving.
  • 1
    I somehow don't wanna read it.... Mostly because my brain is already full of shit eh stuff that I can make enough soap telenovelas on my own.

    But this reminds me a lot of the cannibalism in the PHP community / development. Cannibalism is a fitting hyperbole - cause PHP really lost a lot of good devs because most of the communication was... Bleep.

    But this is a story others should tell.

    I'd like to point out one developer specifically, not because I agree with his opinions, but because I think he has a great style of writing.

    Looking at the time of creation... 2013... My god how time flies.

    Guess I'm ancient.

    So grab some popcorn, I'm gonna light a fire, read the blog entry. From skimming over the rust entry, it feels like history is bound to repeat itself.

    https://blog.ircmaxell.com/2013/09/...
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