fuck google! fuck the people updating the android OS! fuck android!

first you guys removed the feature to connect wifi using WPS and then promised to bring it back but instead brought a completely different feature

then you make all the clipboard manager apps obsolete. only keyboard apps can be clipboard manager otherwise the rest of them are screwed.

app needs my location permission just so that it can turn on my wifi! wtf!

app needs bluetooth, wifi & location just so that it can send data from one device to another device offline? why bluetooth? are we going back to 1970s?

fuck you google! fuck android!

I really wish some other companies fork it and removes all the clutters and makes it better.

The permission system was always badly designed and it doesn't seem to improve

Android 12 introduced the Nearby Devices permission which allows you to use Wi-Fi and Bluetooth for communication without needing the Location permission.

It sounds oddly familiar to iOS. Android just copying iOS's crappy ideas.

Wps is a broken system which is easily broken and never should be active on a router.

Use ios. Who the f uses android

@IverCoder the things he mentioned doesn’t exist in iOS you failed troll.

@aviophile I mean, OP's talking about Android, not iOS

@IverCoder sorry, mentioned wrong person. @MaddScientist is the failed troll. Apple is literally the most secure os that prevents permisssion freak apps and has a real time indicator when location, mic or any sensor used, even with your permission or as apple service.

@aviophile oh. Speaking of Apple, would like to add to the things you mentioned: unlike the Play Store, the Apple App Store actually curates and verifies what app publishers put on their data safety declarations, unlike Play Store's data safety section which can easily be faked and Google cannot be bothered to verify them.

@IverCoder yeah, with that, average app quality is too different between two OS. I haven’t seen a shitty app in App Store

Yea. atleast apps like TikTok can't view all ur clipboard anymore. And the clipboard manager of some keyboards are genuenly already perfect. Maybe the bluetooth permission is needed to be visible to the other device idk, as bluetooth especially the new versions are soo energy efficient compared to having a Wifi "Hotspot" on all the time. I agree they change alot though which sucks.

@aviophile we get it, you are a apple fanboy. Now please answer me, why tf do you need both bluetooth and wifi on when using Airdrop?

So much of this is so wrong.

WPS sucks because it allows devices in range to steal the password, and shouldn't be used anyway.

Clipboard apps expose all your clipboard history to other apps so they can steal the data, while keyboard apps only send the selected data to the selected input field.

Location permission is needed for Wi-Fi and Bluetooth because if an app can use either of those, it can see nearby devices' MAC addresses, and there are databases where apps can find location based on what devices are in range.

"Offline" doesn't mean "without using existing wireless transmission protocols", and again, see above for why it needs that permission.

There's not a single valid point in your post, it's just a blatant display of ignorance. At least you could find some valid reasons why Android and Google's decisions regarding it suck (there are plenty), but instead you just went full retard about the few things that actually make sense.

@SakuraNinja People that like usable keyboards?

@hitko first of all: even if you go and buy a random wifi router from anywhere, chances that there is a WPS button. whether android keeps it or not, doesn't make wps more secure. there are times if you go to your grandmas house & she doesnt know the password, wps could save a lot of your time. & the replacement google came up with, they named it "Easy connect". let me tell you how "easy" it is: your friends' or cousin's router password has some special character. specially the "space" character. even if you scan the qr code from their phone, it wont connect, cause the qr code itself is wrong! you can try it in your own router if you want.

then you talk about clipboard: you use clipboard in windows/mac/linux, but when it comes to android, "OMG! its not safe!!", why? instead they could let the users decide, "you want this app to access clipboard? sure! go ahead!" but now, android says, "Fuck you!"

& I could answer each of points but the character limit for a reply is almost finished

@Xoka

And chances are that if you buy it today, and it's not some relic of the past, it has a WPS button... And the WPS service disabled.

@CoreFusionX wps being disabled has nothing to do with it. if you are near the wifi, all you gotta do is press the button and it turns on wps for half a minute & just use your phone's wps option and you're connected.

& there are wifi routers in which no matter how many times you reset it, they have a default weird password set which you'll never know unless you read their 40 pages legal docs and usage docs. I agree that its good to read docs but what if you lost the papers? what if you bought the router 2nd hand from someone else? what if you reset after few months of buying the router? there are just so many use cases of the wps button & I just cant emphasize enough.

at the end of the day it should be the users to decide how they want their devices to be used. but if major os like android removes it from the root, we've got no other way but to rant here in devrant. thats how terrible the situation is.

@Xoka

No matter how you want to defend it, no. WPS should *never* be used.

And we as devs should all know this.

It was deprecated and retired for obvious reasons, and your router only has the button because they can't deprecate already manufactured hardware.

@CoreFusionX yeah, its like saying, "no matter what you say, aliens exist within us. this guy @xoka is also an alien. trust me"