Timesheets are gonna be the death of me. Ugh.....

@ostream Fortunately the situation isn't that dire yet

Automate that shit with Jira tickets

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@MammaNeedHummus that requires a manager taking an active role in breaking the work down into reasonable tickets though. Most managers are far too busy for all that.

I have worked with timesheets. All I can say is don’t do timesheets as an employee. Only as a consultant.

Someone wants an estimate for a change. You can’t figure out how long it will change to fix without digging into the code. They won’t give you time linked to the project to explore it. Where do I log this exploratory time?

If I don’t log time as an employee I don’t get paid. As a consultant you simply charge more per hour and accept that you won’t be doing full days of billable time.

@irene sounds like they should get better at _managing_ 😁

Get the seniors to refine tickets so they are Ready to be sized

Do you ever get used to it though

Timer program for measuring time in minutes.

Then I usually use a REST API for feeding Jira.... I "upgraded" recently from a CSV with Jira ID,Time,Comment to a JSON with same content.

Script handles the rest (end point, user auth, etc).

https://pypi.org/project/...

Python API for dealing with the shitties rest API you've ever seen.

I'll update it usually once per week, rest I just stuff the entries when done with task in the JSON so nothing is lost.

I tried scripting start and stop with automatically filling the JSON / CSV, but it's really faster and less error prone to do it manually.

Don't forget to round up the measured time.

Holy jesus tits I asked my managers (or any similar mid-manager) to autogenerate weekly reports and time sheets from JIRA. EVERYTHING is there you absolute fucks and I don't have admin rights. I would do it if I could abstract this crap from my work, but I am not allowed. But yeah, they either refuse or forget about it every single time. I just gave up, just fucking pay me and I'll botch it on godforsaken Teams DM like you asked.

I don't really want to become a manager and babysit people, but at the same time some fucking order is required in this shit stew of a company.

It is so bad that devs are complaining about boring manual tasks flooding their schedule and management wants to ship the manual work to new hires offshore on the cheap instead of asking devs to automate it. Can't make this shit up lol.

@PepeTheFrog I feel like management is often at the root of dev problems. They don’t give enough time to clean messes, clutch control of jira, need too strict reporting, are absentee, don’t give time for architecture, change sprint scopes, refuse to mediate, and etc etc.

I can think of one dev manager that I had that was good. The rest of them have ranged from low end mediocre to bad.

And devs that get into management are often missing skills like empathy or understanding trade offs.