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This is a very bad practice in freelancer zone as this shows you are still in the Learning phase of programming.
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rhein712087yAnd what means 80% HTML?
I bet he doesn't know 80% of all Tags by heart, but he is able to google 100% of them... -
@sam9669 aren't we all bro? **sits in lotus position, raises hands and touches index with thumb, starts floating away in ohm**
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Froot75397yWell there are some stuff to learn about html I guess. Like best practices of structuring or how to improve your site's accessibility
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And that Android? 65%? In what? Java? Kotlin? C++? Dang so many things to hate in this small section of a CV.
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Or he once made a small website and thought those are the only needed tags.
For me if I'm recruiting I ask for a concept, for example multi threading, if candidate k ows it but not the classes to use I'd might accept but telling me I know 80% if a language will throw a big rejected on his apply -
I think most of you are just pathetic, those percentages on many portfolios just represent how sure he is in the knowledge of that language (html is weird, I agree on that) - so a lower percentage means he doesn't have full control of said language, the higher it is the better his knowledge is and the more he can apply it, if it was an actual CV - nobody lists 500 things to each language he knows, so if its a percentage or only 5 things listed, doesnt play any role.
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zshh38487y@JoshBent Well I think that is obvious and that everyone understands it. What I think is stupid is the percentage, how do you come up with the number? Seems pretty arbitrary to me. Is it how much of the API you have remembered? Most languages are huge and there’s always stuff you don’t know by heart.
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@zshh Its just as much of a subjective guess (some better than others) as listing things you might think are enough to represent your knowledge in a programming language.
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So I guess you guys are all experts on html5 standards!
So I guess you know all about offline and storage, indexedDB, 2d/3d graphics, webgl, video/audio, webrtc, touch events, geo location, web workers, notificarions apis and so many more which can be found on w3c or mozilla sites :/
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@JoshBent Still it is a bad way to indicate your knowledge. Giving percentages? C'mon! And if I ask him/her a question on an interview, the reply would be "That's not covered by my 80% of knowledge"? Then we say goodbye to each other because the applicant may be focusing on a different area of Java for example. Also this CV defines HTML5 and CSS3, but not Java 7, Java 8 or a more ancient version.
It may be just me, but I prefer CV's with abstract descriptions of actual projects that were made by the applicant, and by that I can tell myself if it's matches with our requirements, or can be matched without investing a vast amount of money. -
@usethedocsluke those percentages are most often used in portfolio websites as a quick and easy way to show how good you are in certain programming languages and which are even worth mentioning - where you don't want it to be too busy with 500 lines of text describing how you did fizzbuzz at microsoft and how you can develop for the very first browser that was known to mankind. Come on be realistic about it - even if somebody describes shortly what his projects were, you still can't put all information there - so you are still forced to ask what he did in that project, if he knows X etc.
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@usethedocsluke Also nobody reads through a CV that has more than one page - most companies trash/auto-reply (or auto-rank it to the very bottom via score system - basically trashing it too) the CV immediately as soon as it says 2 pages (seen it happening live throughout atleast 5 companies I worked for and knew the people reviewing those CVs), now there is going to be people quoting me and saying "my company checks CVs that are 500 pages!!!" - your company is trash and invests its resources wrong.
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@JoshBent I agree with your points, that a long CV may be a bad CV. Yet, imo percentages are totally useless. Would you hire someone who can "write to the console, but cannot to a file"? What does the 80% covers? Yea I won't know that from a summary of previous projects, yet at least it gives me an idea of the skills. Hiring someone who is just 80% sure of what he/she's doing is a sign of a trash company. Either can, or cannot. If there's an obstacle, something that is out of the 80%,use his/her brain to search for a solution. But this also means that drawing an 80% line is nothing but useless.
However, just as I won't waste my time to read a 2-3 page CV, should I scroll through a fancy, bullshit overloaded single page website handled in as a potrfolio? Maybe I should switch browser if the current one cannot display the page? What if I'm an oldschool one who uses IE6 on WinXP? Don't think it makes a difference.
But yeah, probably I'm trash, just as my company. Best exchange ever. -
@usethedocsluke The most ridicilous thing in this whole rant is probably that this wasn't even a CV but rather a website, since OP is just 15 years old and I doubt hes viewing any CVs. Also regarding your last comment, if you read my messages as you read your CVs, I do reserve the doubt of your position, because I addressed the theoretical quote of people saying that their company allegedly reads through every single CV page there is and it wasn't directed towards you.
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@usethedocsluke Also your over-exaggerated examples are beyond reality, who submits a webpage as a CV? (except for it being an actual image of the page, but thats not what you said) the standard is either PDF or a Word document (most often .doc rather than .docx, because most companies still use old software)
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Dacexi119967y@mundo03 yeah but what does 100% confidence mean? I had a lot more confidence 3 years ago than I did now, yet I sucked ass.
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@Bitwise Well as I mentioned above iirc it's a gray area on CVs, but you could def. try to drop it and check if it improves anything.
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@Bitwise It's a totally acceptable thing to use on portfolio websites though, so if you have it there too - don't change it imho.
Can all the people that do this just fuck off?
HTML: 80%
80% OF WHAT?
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