$19billion later, here we are

Pretty sure it means "you weren't online for a long time please enter the app"

It still is sad nonetheless :P

@MatanRad No I am a frequent user of the app as I use it for most of my communication and I too get those notifications... And sometimes I actually have new messages. Crazy never had that before whatsapp sold its soul.

Telegram >>>>>

Getting people to switch is hard tho. Even if it is not a matter of preference but objective superiority.

Might be because of the Erlang backend.. Getting "Maybe messages", need to display that somehow

Bet they'll calculate an average message time and the popup may say, "you may have received around 404 messages".

They're living in the future, they're in a quantum superposition of having and not having unread messages. This is just their way of simplifying their multidimensional existence to our basic earthly understanding.

This pop ups to me whenever I have no data on my cellphone. But still have my data activated. (My cellphone works with a prepaid option where I buy certain amount of data).

"Sometimes, WhatsApp will display this notification because it has reason to believe that you have a new message waiting for you, but has been unable to establish a continual connection to the WhatsApp server to download further information, including the messages that may be waiting to deliver.

The likely reason for this is that you have disabled background data, restricting WhatsApp to only being allowed to ping its servers from time to time, and receiving the data of a new message, but being unable to download it due to having its data restricted from background data being turned off."

-Quora

@stefano now message is actually make sense

@Snatchedd I don't trust Telegram's home-grown crypto... Not saying WhatsApp is better, but at least they've implemented the Signal protocol. I'm all for Matrix myslef — Signal is nice, but it's centralized.

@stefano Adding to it, whatsapp receives count(mostly mqtt) and messages(https) separately. Count can be received in data saving mode also(i guess). But messages can't because of restrictions. Disagreement bw two produces this messages.

@edensg Can't ++ you enough

@Snatched Amen to that.

WhatsApp
You may have new messages, you may not. I don't care. Whatever.

WhatsApp is a $19 billion data mining platform with a chat system added in as an afterthought.

@edensg that way you can be sure that the only ones reading your messages are you, the recipient and Facebook.

@dovipas No... that's not how it works. Assuming WhatsApp has correctly implemented the Signal protocol (and iirc they worked with Open Whisper Systems on it, so they probably did), Facebook only has access to your metadata. This is, of course, still a ton of unnecessary info, but they cannot read your messages.

@edensg but since the client app is closed source, is there something that would impede it to, let's say, finding some potentially high value keywords in your convos during each daily backup, and send them along usage stats? Maybe there is uh, just asking.