@D-4got10-01 Or maybe Postal 2, dude here looks and talks like "The Dude"

@tosensei Bullshit. You are a brainwashed slave or smth.

Developer is developer and to do his job well he has to do the minimum amount of tech juggling and context switching.

Offloading everything to a developer because it can will only push him to find another company when doing all these jobs togheter like a fucking swiss army knife makes him skilled enough to ask for a higher salary somewhere else and he can allow to trasnfer.

I changed 3 companies for this getting 3 raises. Not planning to stop. Just taking longer than usual because they allowed me to have my own AI project and that shit is long to study, but they pay me for it so I am fine with it.

@Jabb03 Unfortunately this is a great answer that does not apply to the real world, unless you don't want to be taken as a serious professional.

That said, you gotta develop a soft skill that allows you to shape reality in "Yes i know what is happening but I have to open a ticket to devops and shit" and sometimes you gotta solve it by yourself because you can't just wait some neckbeard devops taking 2 days to view your ticket and 2 to solve it by changing a config flag from true to false.

Late to the party but I'm consistently using it since 2 years (not for my choice) and I must disagree with you:

It's not only a worthless piece of shit, it's frustrating, stupid and poorly designed.

Like all the poor designed shit that gets pooed out from apache and that gets blowjobs from OSS linux beardnecks.

The only thing that makes these college freshman projects famous is the same that make linux widely used:

It's free. IF they starts charging money or make it close sourced, bye bye.

People goes a long distance to not pay a few hundred bucks.

I've been through linux, kafka, openCAD, and many many open source shit. I learnt the hard way that paid software usually (but not always) means superior quality on all sides.

@sidthepajfuk Good! Where do I apply

soon as I've heard XMPP my heart skipped a few beats in horror. Php... brrrrrrr

Is the pay good?

Also yes, there are lamps that simulate the sun

my username checks out and the posts also for sure.

The problem?

We got all these "learn coding in 3 months" and college freshmans and most of all these high tech dropouts that believe they're the next IT genius and are able to write a mature framework with the same ease you write a sidekick weekend project.

This led to lot of these idiots to puke out shit on github and generally everywhere advertising it in bold claims as the new panacea for all evil.

Dumb idiots and marketing guys advertise and use it (dumb idiot = the guy who hops on whatever bandwagon is trendy at the moment) and bang you got some new framework that just because some people use it or "that guy worked at google!" then it must be goooood!

Programming today is a hell because of these walking cancers

@tosensei Thank god, I was already preparing myself for a backlash of AI zealots in my comments

@BordedDev Also got problem posting again, this time in dev tools (and not displayed on the webpage LOL, I had to go in dev tools and examine the http response), it said it's either too long or had special charachters.

Turns out I had put a word in quotation marks and this was getting devrant angry.

Heh.....

@BordedDev when you post there is a char counter that warns you if it's too long. Rephrasing with AI because I'm lazy did the trick.

Too much in mid for sure but it's the poor code that make my blood boil.

It's all the little OPTIMIZATIONS that they justify as good practice until death that kills me inside. When it's 1 or 2 no problem, but they pile up thousands of them and it drives me nuts.

One example for the sake of explaining:

Dependency injection in .NET WebAPI, you basically have to type in service.Add.... for every service that has to be injected later in code.

Usually this is done in the entrypoint code (Program.cs class) and you pile up all the entries there. If they are much you divide them by type (services, repositories) and if they are very much you divide them in regions (collapsible areas to keep it hidden).

They made a new whole project with a class and a method for every "region" and to find one dependency you have to skim 5 classes in 2 projects.

@AlgoRythm I like that in 43 days nothing has improved. They brought into copilot Claude 3.7 sonnet and it's fucking up like the other older models.

It's awesome jesus, it is doing the exact same errors.

@retoor We have strict privacy policies and company doesn't trust anyone beside copilot. I can't choose

@BordedDev I came to the point of literally giving it working code pieces to see if it gets it right. Jesus

@retoor Actually yes, it's an AI product that has next to no competitors and the ones that are present are all open source projects abandoned years ago (with no AI of course) or simpler stuff.

We did our homework researching before doing.

Also we realized we needed this already for our daily developement stuff because there was not anything like it

@retoor don't like my code to be peeked around by unknown people

Gpt or not, the only pleasant debugging experience I had is with visual studio.

Everything else lead me to unbearable pain.

@retoor I must admit you got a point, unfortunately, I am involved in some huge projects and companies don't like their code to travel around AI companies.

OpenAI is only allowed because they have a collaboration.

Occasionally for some of my private project I tried copilot with all the experimental models and it produced what I said in the post.

Might want to give codeium a shot but I'm not too fan of paying, therefore I think I will try some nice extensions I saw around for vscode, and run deepseek r1 or qwen locally with ollama and use those in place. Will try also to see if free codeium tier (if they got one) suits my needs.

Sigh, too much stuff around to try

Thanks for the other POV I needed

@BordedDev don't that shit snoops your code and send it to them?

Not nice

@gitstashio You know cybercriminals use ai too right? Oh right you were ironic

The biggest pity is that they made the whole thing extremely complex and fragile. Proof of it the TON of malware daily published both on Play store and Apple store (much less because you have a high paywall but it's still there too) with ease.

You get literally nightmares if you look at mobile CVE reports. Jeez, it's like having a ticking bomb in your hand.

Basically I want android and I have to keep it as it is, installing just banking apps, amazon, and other 3 apps and nothing else. No games, no scanner fancy app, no funny apps and anything.

Any app could literally hide an infostealer or whatever else.

This should give the idea of what kind of crap has been developed

Thank god I accurately avoided to learn anything android-mobile related.

First there was Eclipse and it was a premium hell to make something cross-platform (and you also need to own a mac of some form to compile to iOS).

Then they tried some huge shit cakes like Xamarin and other stuff and Android Studio with his shittish java-ish code. Complicated, bloated, horrible.

Then they also publish 2039 android versions and evertything breaks and your damn code must be either a "fuck you you have old android I don't care about you" or a living hell in maintaining compatibility between various android versions where permission systems shenanigans and changes between each android version made developing a torture-like experience.

Now electron and mono to make multi platform.

Then they want to mix in webassembly.

Hell no! I don't need this noob software dev crap hacked togheter frameworks that will make me miserable in my life, I'm having enough fun with angular and full stack.

Copilot is the utter dumbest shit possible. It literally have problems over simplest code and it's good only to do bovine code so you save time (i.e class mapping, some low level loops and conditions).

Anything more complex, even in the editor mode where you can give him files to reason on is utter shit and it can't figure out anything good.

Our company wanted to pay at all costs us a license and now it went free, lol

I tried to give it some angular code to do and it failed miserably, beside not knowing angular 18 which is the current standard.

When asked to do complex code, it went nuts and just added some "hey let's put this variable here const recordId = this.id" which had no value at all relatively to the task asked.

They keep announcing the down of a new era of programmer-replacing AI once in a while only to reveal some shit stain junior-level code assistant.

No one is going to take your work for at least other 10 years.

@Nmeri17 always eager to learn convenient stuff, where I can get more about svelte and turbo togheter with htmx? any recommended guide

@retoor It was a set of totems and screen displays for a big company that wanted to showcase their products on totems and their awesome green approach with showing how much Co2 they were saving using solar panels in their showrooms.

We had to do some maintenance/updates to the screen showcase apps from time to time and before using VNC we had to go there machine by machine.

Again, not my choice, I was asked to put a vnc server on each of them to be able to connect and do that stuff remotely

Both this and the install were at least 9-10 years ago, when I was a rookie

It comes to my mind that I also roasted some hard drives with dd because that shit is unintelligible and overcomplicated

Sir this is a court and you are accuse of genocide, you cannot do that

@jestdotty if it tastes good have a decaffeinate. Another thing, if it is your thing, is to largely dilute it with water and make it a giant american coffee.

Sometimes to make a coffee last longer I made like a cup of water with a coffee poured into it.

Sounds disgusting, I know, but once you get used to it it isn't bad, and it lasts definitely longer for the same amount of caffeine + bonus of being released slower in time

I just tried to cut off for 2025.

I was up to 3-4 coffes a day +1/2 cans of red bull

Some days I had heart pounding in my chest and various caffeine crushes I couldn't recognize.

Now I cut to 1 coffe max a day.

Sometimes is hard and I want to have more but I bought a 2lt canister for water and I drink that instead.

Sounded like a suidice keeping caffeine at that rate.

@jestdotty Both your POVs are really interesting and I will surely dwell more into them as I need to discover the root causes of this shit that is happening to me. Thanks for the insight

@CoreFusionX It's not only that, some days I really struggle making up with simple tasks or simple code I've done multiple times in the past, like common anti-sql injection practices, familiar programming patterns and so on. I get lost in the details and start to procrastinate because I feel I can't finish the task and an uncanny and inexplicable sense of procrastination overcomes everything even if I have deadlines.

I find myself distracting with whatever else task but the one I should focus just to avoid doing it because I know it's difficult for me in that moment.

It absolutely sucks and kills my motivation and self esteem