@tosensei Thank god, I was already preparing myself for a backlash of AI zealots in my comments

@BordedDev Also got problem posting again, this time in dev tools (and not displayed on the webpage LOL, I had to go in dev tools and examine the http response), it said it's either too long or had special charachters.

Turns out I had put a word in quotation marks and this was getting devrant angry.

Heh.....

@BordedDev when you post there is a char counter that warns you if it's too long. Rephrasing with AI because I'm lazy did the trick.

Too much in mid for sure but it's the poor code that make my blood boil.

It's all the little OPTIMIZATIONS that they justify as good practice until death that kills me inside. When it's 1 or 2 no problem, but they pile up thousands of them and it drives me nuts.

One example for the sake of explaining:

Dependency injection in .NET WebAPI, you basically have to type in service.Add.... for every service that has to be injected later in code.

Usually this is done in the entrypoint code (Program.cs class) and you pile up all the entries there. If they are much you divide them by type (services, repositories) and if they are very much you divide them in regions (collapsible areas to keep it hidden).

They made a new whole project with a class and a method for every "region" and to find one dependency you have to skim 5 classes in 2 projects.

@AlgoRythm I like that in 43 days nothing has improved. They brought into copilot Claude 3.7 sonnet and it's fucking up like the other older models.

It's awesome jesus, it is doing the exact same errors.

@retoor We have strict privacy policies and company doesn't trust anyone beside copilot. I can't choose

@BordedDev I came to the point of literally giving it working code pieces to see if it gets it right. Jesus

@retoor Actually yes, it's an AI product that has next to no competitors and the ones that are present are all open source projects abandoned years ago (with no AI of course) or simpler stuff.

We did our homework researching before doing.

Also we realized we needed this already for our daily developement stuff because there was not anything like it

@retoor don't like my code to be peeked around by unknown people

Gpt or not, the only pleasant debugging experience I had is with visual studio.

Everything else lead me to unbearable pain.

@retoor I must admit you got a point, unfortunately, I am involved in some huge projects and companies don't like their code to travel around AI companies.

OpenAI is only allowed because they have a collaboration.

Occasionally for some of my private project I tried copilot with all the experimental models and it produced what I said in the post.

Might want to give codeium a shot but I'm not too fan of paying, therefore I think I will try some nice extensions I saw around for vscode, and run deepseek r1 or qwen locally with ollama and use those in place. Will try also to see if free codeium tier (if they got one) suits my needs.

Sigh, too much stuff around to try

Thanks for the other POV I needed

@BordedDev don't that shit snoops your code and send it to them?

Not nice

@gitstashio You know cybercriminals use ai too right? Oh right you were ironic

The biggest pity is that they made the whole thing extremely complex and fragile. Proof of it the TON of malware daily published both on Play store and Apple store (much less because you have a high paywall but it's still there too) with ease.

You get literally nightmares if you look at mobile CVE reports. Jeez, it's like having a ticking bomb in your hand.

Basically I want android and I have to keep it as it is, installing just banking apps, amazon, and other 3 apps and nothing else. No games, no scanner fancy app, no funny apps and anything.

Any app could literally hide an infostealer or whatever else.

This should give the idea of what kind of crap has been developed

Thank god I accurately avoided to learn anything android-mobile related.

First there was Eclipse and it was a premium hell to make something cross-platform (and you also need to own a mac of some form to compile to iOS).

Then they tried some huge shit cakes like Xamarin and other stuff and Android Studio with his shittish java-ish code. Complicated, bloated, horrible.

Then they also publish 2039 android versions and evertything breaks and your damn code must be either a "fuck you you have old android I don't care about you" or a living hell in maintaining compatibility between various android versions where permission systems shenanigans and changes between each android version made developing a torture-like experience.

Now electron and mono to make multi platform.

Then they want to mix in webassembly.

Hell no! I don't need this noob software dev crap hacked togheter frameworks that will make me miserable in my life, I'm having enough fun with angular and full stack.

Copilot is the utter dumbest shit possible. It literally have problems over simplest code and it's good only to do bovine code so you save time (i.e class mapping, some low level loops and conditions).

Anything more complex, even in the editor mode where you can give him files to reason on is utter shit and it can't figure out anything good.

Our company wanted to pay at all costs us a license and now it went free, lol

I tried to give it some angular code to do and it failed miserably, beside not knowing angular 18 which is the current standard.

When asked to do complex code, it went nuts and just added some "hey let's put this variable here const recordId = this.id" which had no value at all relatively to the task asked.

They keep announcing the down of a new era of programmer-replacing AI once in a while only to reveal some shit stain junior-level code assistant.

No one is going to take your work for at least other 10 years.

@Nmeri17 always eager to learn convenient stuff, where I can get more about svelte and turbo togheter with htmx? any recommended guide

@retoor It was a set of totems and screen displays for a big company that wanted to showcase their products on totems and their awesome green approach with showing how much Co2 they were saving using solar panels in their showrooms.

We had to do some maintenance/updates to the screen showcase apps from time to time and before using VNC we had to go there machine by machine.

Again, not my choice, I was asked to put a vnc server on each of them to be able to connect and do that stuff remotely

Both this and the install were at least 9-10 years ago, when I was a rookie

It comes to my mind that I also roasted some hard drives with dd because that shit is unintelligible and overcomplicated

Sir this is a court and you are accuse of genocide, you cannot do that

@jestdotty if it tastes good have a decaffeinate. Another thing, if it is your thing, is to largely dilute it with water and make it a giant american coffee.

Sometimes to make a coffee last longer I made like a cup of water with a coffee poured into it.

Sounds disgusting, I know, but once you get used to it it isn't bad, and it lasts definitely longer for the same amount of caffeine + bonus of being released slower in time

I just tried to cut off for 2025.

I was up to 3-4 coffes a day +1/2 cans of red bull

Some days I had heart pounding in my chest and various caffeine crushes I couldn't recognize.

Now I cut to 1 coffe max a day.

Sometimes is hard and I want to have more but I bought a 2lt canister for water and I drink that instead.

Sounded like a suidice keeping caffeine at that rate.

@jestdotty Both your POVs are really interesting and I will surely dwell more into them as I need to discover the root causes of this shit that is happening to me. Thanks for the insight

@CoreFusionX It's not only that, some days I really struggle making up with simple tasks or simple code I've done multiple times in the past, like common anti-sql injection practices, familiar programming patterns and so on. I get lost in the details and start to procrastinate because I feel I can't finish the task and an uncanny and inexplicable sense of procrastination overcomes everything even if I have deadlines.

I find myself distracting with whatever else task but the one I should focus just to avoid doing it because I know it's difficult for me in that moment.

It absolutely sucks and kills my motivation and self esteem

@jestdotty that's twisted, my lord. Do you have any way to recover?

I don't know, basically my sleep schedule is fucked because of anxiety, I started having panick attacks over stupid things like too thick saliva that makes me feel I'm going to suffocate and high stress work is sure another factor (lot of requests, lot to learn even if I'm experienced).

Family life also have lot of chores and duties.

That said I often tought about neuroinflammation and his nasty effects.

How one goes about diagnosing neuroinflammation presence?

@Lensflare top level marketing strategies from OpenAI

@retoor Sorry but no.

Gave me too many nightmares.

Remembering 2 randoms:

1.Tried to install vnc server on a old machine just to discover their distro maintainers ditched it (or call it stopped support for that version maybe) and I had to manually change the repos to the new ones to be able to do a goddamn anything

2.Had to install some machines with wifi dongles because no cable was available in this high machinery environment. Long story short: drivers didn't exist and had to find some obscure guy who did somewhat compatible drivers open source on github, download the source, compile it and install on every machine.

WHERE THE FUCK IN HELL YOU NEED TO COMPILE DRIVERS BY YOURSELF?

This is enough for me to tell a big fat fuck you to linux

Sad is that I still have to use it though (docker, lot of server/devops pipelines, raspberry etc etc etc) and it always give me some shit errors that require fucking your head in bash terminal for 1 hour

@retoor I'm full stack, at this point i'm even more than that as I also configure devops pipelines and other stuff like dbs, server and whatever else needed.

Ironic isn't it? Having to deal with all kind of shit and angular and linux are still the worse shit to me even if I personally handled a ton of techs

@retoor

Answer to:

1) Devs choices:

Yes, choosing angular or react makes you shit.

2) LLM

LLM is trained on a ton of data and FOR SURE angular data and samples and docs are available in abundance, literally internet is flooded with it.

BUt somehow it struggles with angular. Guess why. You must be right in your intuition.

3) my frameworks

I work mainly in .NET/MVC and even with all of his problems I had a FAR MUCH MORE EASY LIFE, even for unimaginable complex applications (i.e documental, OCR digital, archiviation for a SaaS with multiple customer and a totally hierarchically customizable interface (up to the tables showing the data) of a gargantuan amount of data. Yet doing this was sure hard, but a breeze compared to much easier projects, but done in angular.

I've tried vue and I was surprised by how quick you can put up stuff. Unfortunately I can't choose the tools/frameworks.

js would be more of an infected rat in the process of being run down by everyone of them

why a rant site for devs has become some low level quora for granny gifts

@b2plane that's why I'm still hired after 14 years. Go use shitty techs man