@bluenutterfly

@Ashkin sounds like the source control decided to become access control.

@dontbeevil man I hate Google so much.

@MissDirection I wish you well on finding your niche! For me my interests in code have changed every few years and I change what I'm tasks in taking on at work.
Uni will have more or less value depending on your country and your desires. If you want to work freelance your success is highly based off of marketing your skills regardless of a degree. If you want to work for a company, different companies will value or not value a degree.

In any case I recommend pursuing an internship at well known company with a frequent internship program. Smart companies use this as a dual recruiting / interviewing tool.

@pagrette well obviously because only way to get HYPER MEGA CANCER AIDS™ is a Chuck Norris roundhouse kick™ to the groin.

@jhh2450 😂😂😂😂😂

@jAsE my bad, though I thought "exisitial crisis" would have given it away

@jAsE I was being sarcastic mate =)

@jAsE so, are you saying your original comment was basically you trying to figure out why the hell OP thinks everything should be free, because if the OP knew why it would tell you why you also think that; because it's been a existential crisis for you?

I need to remind myself of this more often cause I can be a design purist

@jAsE I think he's acknowledging that it's a bad feeling to feel entitled while expressing the cause has been too much free stuff for students & some decent open source stuff has given that expectation.

Its a typical marketing ploy to be honest, cable and TV companies do this with free 3 month trials of add on packages like HBO, Starz, etc. Get some lone hooked on something which cheap/free intro and they will complain about having to pay for it later. But us weak willed humans do it cause well...reasons.

@shelladdicted no backups,

But I'm not crying cause software is easy to install, and all "documents" are stored in the cloud as well. =)

@Metalor idk, I work with some people who did 3 to 4 years of schooling and I wish I could send them back.....

@Artemix @dontPanic

How much do formulas transfer? Especially vlookups, match, etc?

In other news, project managers and web designers are on high alert due to an increased level of physical crime from backend developers. Detectives declined to comment when asked "what caused this increase in crime in an otherwise safe work environment."

I feel your pain.

And because I do, I won't give you hard time about your ill-advised superiority complex over blue collar jobs that don't require a college degree but still require complex training and equipment.

@jeffalyanak vim displays hard tabs in any format I like, I doubt it can "detect" how many spaces should be an indent, and then resize them to a given preference, AND still detect alignment (spacing) properly that isn't part of the indentation. Part of the problem here is coding for every single key word in the language.

Where has setting the tabsize is easy, set it to 2 or 4 or leave it as 8, it's one command and its easy to change.

@rantalicious this is the rule I follow. Tabs for indentation (tabulation) and spaces for alignment (spacing)

@briannyagol @devios1 example of this going on right now.

https://www.devrant.io/rants/747509

@salmans pep8 is a bunch of heretics. Heretics I say!!!

Alone.

To the wind.

By myself.

#onlyTabUsingPythonDev

@jeffalyanak huh. I've never seen that particularly (where the physical file contains spaces but the editor shows you a "soft tab object" of different size than the actual underlying spaces.

But this would be very editor dependant, I know of nothing that mimics *that* exact functionality in vim, do you?

@Codex404 I agree this is pretty civil (for the most part). But an eventual flame war will be inevitable. There's a reason for this, but describing it would actually incite the flame war even more.

@VirtualProtect well holy wars are the wars that only end in the annihilation of the "heritics". While tabsVspaces is a lighthearted debate, its an disheartening parallel to real religious holy wars.

Full opinion: in your own project IDGAF what indentation you use, if it's my project tabs are enforced at commit, just as major projects spaces are enforced at commit. (like anything into python forces full pep8 4 spaces for indentation and everything else is heresy).

@arcadesdude so your only forcing my choice in editor?

@jeffalyanak when you say "converting spaces to soft tabs" I assume you mean visually, and not an actual change of the ascii values underneath correct? Cause I know of no "soft tab" character. If this is the case, is your editor converting the look of for example 4 physical spaces for on indentation to the size of your soft tab size? For example when a contributor prefers size 2 indentation your saying your editor is effectively hiding 2 spaces at every indentation level?

@arcadesdude soft tabs are literal spaces, if you open a file with literal spaces it doesn't magically "conform" to your indentation preference on size. Soft tabs are forcing your preference for indentation on others.

/s Its basically Fascisism /s

@jAsE what pisses me off is coding with someone who uses spaces especially at a large size (3 or 4 or even 5). I use hard tabs, size 2. If they want to see it at 4, set their tab size to 4, but if you use fucking soft tabs at size 4, there is 4 literal spaces for indentation and tons of wasted space when I'm working in the code.

Soft tabs are inflexible, because they replace a variable width character with a set number of fixed width characters.

@arcadesdude no, it was because your comment was spam. The OP specifically asked for logical reasons, and your comment didn't provide any

@Codex404 @VirtualProtect pretty much every *nix server has 1 or more of vim, emacs and nano. I know you can change it easily in vim, but I'm not positive about the others (though I expect you can) so I don't think terminal is really that *valid* of a reason.

The ONLY reason I've ever come up with as a valid reason is for enforcing line length constraints. If you use a variable size charcter(tab) you can't reliably predict the line size to be within a character limit (example being 80 characters for diff'ing 2 files side by side on a smaller monitor (or someone with vision problems)

Outside of this argument I've yet to hear a valid argument for using spaces for indentation.

@arcadesdude

Spam.

@devios1 unless you choose "not for me"