Anyone with ADHD on meds here? Current insurance stopped supporting brand name adderall and today I took this Amphetamine Salts cap and it’s actually working a bit better. I wonder if it’s just in my head or is it actually different from brand name outside not being brand name

Generics generally slandered for obvious reasons

@jestdotty hmm? Those reasons aren’t obvious to me. Muscles tensing, want to lift weights! But wow aside from muscles tensing it’s working pretty damn well for my symptoms.

It’s almost 12 pm and I still have my eggs sitting around from this morning

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Fuck my brain is feeling a mix of positive and negative. It’s a war between positive calm and focus and negative feelings of anxiety clashing in my skull like knights on a battlefield

I’ve taken generics in the past. The first day was ALWAYS rough but my body adjusts and they actually start working better than brand. But everyone’s body is different, not everyone has the same experience.

Brand name makes me focused but robotic. And it drains my motivation to get shit done. Generics are hell at first but over time I become a living code machine. But right now I’m trying to suppress a panic attack

Thirsty as hell, shaking a bit.

Amphetamine is good for coding 😁

@retoor can’t argue. The first day back is HELL. I’m in hell right now. The anxiety effects always taper off as the body adjusts

Now my right calf is cramping up

@retoor Anxiety going away and I FEEL SO DAMN GOOD RIGHT NOW!! Everything is so amazing, life is amazing im so motivated to crank out code until I die

@TeachMeCode when I was 15 I could do a week with a gram. Now I can do several grams a day and still don't have the same effect. I'm a vacuum cleaner :(

Didn't do any drugs this year tho. Only few beers :)

@jestdotty i had a rough start but this generic is just the kind of thing my ADHD needs. The brand name made me numb and somewhat depressed. Though everyone does vary.

@retoor you took too much, and your brain hyperadapted. Were you taking them thru a prescription? If so your doc screwed you up

@retoor actually now that I think about it that’s a dangerous amount. I’m only taking 30mg and you essentially had 30 or more pills. I would drop dead on half that. I’m amazed your body is strong enough to handle that much

@TeachMeCode hehe no. Amphetamine as illegal drug is amazingly cheap and popular here

@retoor Speed and prescribed amphetamine are not the same. Speed is usually cut heavily, mostly with caffeine - IIRC the EU average was about 18% amphetamine content. E.g. taking 200mg pure amphetamine because you can do 200mg "speed" that's 90% caffeine & filler is very dangerous so I want to be very clear that it's not comparable.

I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't, you do you, it's not a contest. Just be mindful that not every batch is the same and don't expect pharmaceutical grade amphetamine to be the same.

(And if you bought "80% purity" and didn't have it lab tested you most likely got scammed, best I ever heard of was slightly below 50%, which is a very good result already.)

As for dosage, it also depends on the specific type / formulation, e.g. lisdexamphetamine is releasing slower than amphetamine sulfate and has a daily dose for adults of 30, 50 or 70mg. Obviously tolerance is a thing though, especially if you're dosing flexibly instead if a measured amount regularly.

@TeachMeCode Is it chemically identical? Exact same structure and delivery?

With extended release there can be quite some differences because of the release method. With "pure" amphetamine salts there should not, if it's the same structure.

From the perceived effects it seems your dosage it too high, but that might be an issue when starting the medication that will resolve with a bit of tolerance. If in doubt, ask your psychiatrist.

@saucyatom I’m taking prescribed amphetamine salts. And it makes sense that @retoor is able to take all that bc it was likely mostly caffeine. A gram of amphetamine would be like taking over 30 30mg of my pills which is probably enough for a horse!! Let alone a 15 year old girl lol. In fact I’m sure even the horse would drop dead. That’s an entire monthly script of this stuff all at once.

@TeachMeCode Tolerance can get crazy but "several grams per day" is far, far outside the therapeutic spectrum and has likely long-term and possibly lethal consequences on someone without tolerance. In speed, the caffeine also becomes very dangerous at those doses.

@retoor take care, we still need your rants!

@saucyatom exactly, even ONE gram is very likely to be deadly. I don’t think @retoor would be here if she took that much. No doctor would prescribe such an insane amount for adhd. I think It’s usually 30-60mg depending on the person.

@TeachMeCode I'm pretty sure she was talking about speed, not pure amphetamine. 1g pure amphetamine would possible with enough tolerance, albeit very unhealthy. If you're taking that daily I'd expect you to pee either blood or acid.

@saucyatom sorry, didn’t elaborate. I meant if she took 1g of straight amphetamine and not the speedy stuff as a 15 year old girl no less, the outcome would’ve been VERY negative to say the least

Anyway today I was a CODING MACHINE!! Wrote beautiful well maintainable code and even refactored what my brand name brain spat out. There has to be SOME difference between generic and brand. Then again I probably simply had a good day today and my brain was clearer. Who knows.

@TeachMeCode Which back then was in a week, which makes ~142mg per day, which is a lot (and that's not a good thing, even though 15yo are often proud of stupid things, I mean I certainly was) and a sign of addiction, but not yet meth head crazy level.

Broken down to street purity levels it is a bit more reasonable. Well, as far as you can call stimulant addiction reasonable. But I'm not here to judge.

@TeachMeCode yeah maybe it was just a good day. Continue that tomorrow!

I can take medication and not get anything done, but if I add some nice tea and music on headphones and really try, sometimes I can really zone in and get decent work done. I'd say it makes it easier to control your focus but whether that's work or games or porn or whatever is still up to you.

I’m crashing down, brain feels empty and wants to code but it would be dangerous to continue bc I’ll make a mess and end up refactoring again tomorrow. Want to sleep and extremely hungry. I like how today went overall

@TeachMeCode Don't forget to eat, drink, take breaks. Stims surpress these body signals.

@saucyatom indeed. That’s my biggest bad practice on them. adhd hyperfocus was strong on this generic food faded into irrelevancy which ain’t good

Right when I took the cap (or about five mins after) i was repulsed by the eggs I had sitting in front of me and didn’t eat them until around noon. Usually I dive into them lol. They were my favorite style too-poached soft with a slimy yolk but the yolk looked nasty so I started nibbling on them. That could’ve been a decent source of protein to carry me further tbh

@TeachMeCode I mentioned that on 15th I could do a whole week with a gram. Not one day.

Maybe also the quality get down over the years indeed

Woke up with eyes feeling strained from staring at the screen and coding all that time. Didn’t feel AS great as yesterday but still felt a ton more ambitious and my eyes feel like shit sadly lol