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Well, it's one way to see it.
By no means I'm telling you're wrong... Or right. It's your experience and opinion.
Mine is a tad different. I don't go for low-level linux for the reasons you have listed above. Ubuntu, mint and other high-level OSes are in my arsenal. Decent community, packet managers, wide assortment if ready-to-use software packages, decent hardware support [as long as you use compatible hardware; community size, mistakes and feedbacks help here a lot].
I opt in for linux because no other os grants me such a toolset of tools with clear abstraction of low-level tools, while also allowing to see in-depth low level / protocol level actions these abstractions cause [strace] while maintaining incredible level of simplicity, reliability and clarity.
I don't care much for the os kernel. I do care greatly for the toolset, reliability and consistency, ease of use of high and low level concepts. -
My experience is quite different in comparison.
I'm originally coming from Windows, where the reason i switched was that it kept destroying and resetting my stuff whenever i updated it and that you couldn't do a whole lot, to make it look like you wanted. After every update ypu had to mess with shit, to make it work like before. It kept just pestering me with bullshit. When i had one of my most important presentation in school back then, it suddenly decided (after multiple months) to suddenly do 144 fucking Updates, 10 Minutes before the presentation. The final nail in the coffin was, that it restarted itself for no reason, and deleted a week's worth of work (to this day it keeps doing that on my work PC btw)
I was fed up.
So i switched to Ubuntu MATE, and never came back. I set it up once, sure it took some time. But as i get older i found that i'm not annoyed with it, than any other OS. I just launch my shit, use it, close it. Done. Just regular tools & SW.
Shit just works. -
Apple with their proprietary shit hardware... as in, 256GB to 2TB is 920€. A Samsung 990 Pro 2TB is 175€, so Apple charges 6 times the market rate while only offering soldered-in shit that, if anything, should be quite cheaper than the market rate.
The MBA 15 is +460€ for going from 8GB to 24GB, i.e. 460€ for 16GB. 32GB is not even offered. Totally ridiculous.
Also, the audacity of even offering 256GB SSD and 8GB RAM in an MBA 15 base model at 1600€ in 2024 - only Apple victims think this is in any way normal. -
@Fast-Nop don’t buy it?
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@kiki Obviously, I don't fall for such scams. However, that still doesn't mean I couldn't bring the point up, especially because you completely failed to mention it in your laudation.
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Same reasons I choose to run Debian on a ThinkPad 470s.
Trusty & stable. No surprises.
Gentoo is also in my top picks, especially now it’s offering binary pkgs. It used to be my goto when I had more spare time.
I really like eselect and in general the gentoolkit. Just need the time to sit down and compile a kernel.
At work, we’re given the choice of either Mac OS or Windows, and I figured I might as well go Mac as I’ll probably live in WSL2 otherwise. -
@lotd woops, need to run Adobe Illustrator, urgently, right now, for this one job. You don’t live in a vacuum, and if you do, you’re offensively privileged.
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@kiki luckily for this one job you have the choice of plenty of tools.
Illustrator? Inkscape
Photoshop? Krita, GIMP,
Office? ONLY Office, Office Web
Teams? Teams Web
After Effects? Blender, NATRON,
Premiere? DaVinci Resolve
There are plenty of tools, that do the job as good or even better.
It's always the question, if you choose to depends on software or your skills -
@kiki have yet to urgently need any of adobe’s software. Closest to design I get is handcrafting SVGs or a little bit of Figma 😁
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@thebiochemic none of that can work with photoshop formats
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@kiki since when does GIMP have trouble with Photoshop formats? I haven't really done much with it in the last 6 years or so, but from about 2007 - 2013 using GIMP with Photoshop files was part of my daily workflow.
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@kiki sorry, but have you ACTUALLY tried?
the last time i opened a psd in GIMP, i had no issues with it, no idea what you're talking about.
It's fair, that in some cases, where the psd relies on effects, that PS can do, they don't properly work, but for the most part you can open them in GIMP no problem, i for my part didn't have this happen yet.
and also, that's the fun part. If something's urgent, nobody's gonna give a crap, if it's GIMP or paint.NET, or even the Web Version of Photoshop.
I remember working for a research facility, and was making icons for some Mapping Software. It was rather urgent, because the GoLive was soon, so i just sat down, checked out some programs, that could make svgs, chose one, pulled it off, and the clients we're happy. Nobody gives a damn, if you used illustrator or anything else. -
just to further prove my point, i open this in GIMP:
https://freepik.com/free-psd/...
and get the result in the image.
Also related:
https://docs.krita.org/en/...
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@thebiochemic hmmm… interesting. What about illustrator? Can IS open it?
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@kiki Inkscape would be the way to go here, and yes, it can open .ai files.
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@thebiochemic wow, I never knew. Thanks for your time 🙏
The main reason I moved from Linux to macOS was that I grew up. If we count not just Linux experiments but prolonged usage, I was an avid Crunchbang fan. After it died, I moved to elementaryos.
What I want to say is, Linux can be very fun and educational when you're still in the uni. You have all the energy in the world, and you can afford to diverge from your daily routine for an hour to debug GPU drivers.
Now, the backbone of my life is keeping a very tight sleep schedule, taking meds on time, avoid infohazards, avoid scrolling on the web, all to remain in a very fragile state of balance that keeps the bipolar disorder away. I'm in the middle of all this, earning derealization (yes, I'm also autistic) every time I design a data model. All I want from my computer is to be treated like a careless, regular user, not like someone with a CS degree.
I use Sublime Merge instead of command line Git. I use Postico to explore PostgreSQL databases, not psql from my terminal. By the way, my terminal is not iTerm, Alacritty or some other such thing, my terminal is whatever came with my Mac, with whatever default settings.
Linux is crawling into a non-street-legal racecar's cockpit and strapping yourself in, ready to blast off. MacOS is your chauffeur, holding your old shaking hand as he helps you into your Maybach's backseat. They're different, and that's okay.
Can Maybach race? Well, it has a 621 HP V12, so if _you_ can race, it probably can too, but we all know it's not a racecar.
Windows? Windows is an SS officer, wearing the all too familiar Windows logo for swastika, throwing you into a gaswagen.
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