Mandatory winter break means mandatory.

Getting PR requests from a team mate during company wide holiday PTO. Asked him wtf he was doing, manager told him he had to work.

NOT the managers call! This is going to HR on the 2nd

Hmm, tbh, if I had the time, I would do it as well. But I won't ask someone for a pull request during holidays. Manager has to do that himself. Also, how important is it if it still has to go trough the whole process? If you ask me to do smth during the holidays -> it will skips some steps. Else I won't consider it important enough. It won't do the whole process during holidays. Fuck you. In my free time i'm a hacker, not a developer. A hack you can get.

If a person wants to work during holidays on their own, that fine.

Management demanding / forcing / wanting / whatever others to work !OK.

Unless perhaps a fair bonus for overtime is in place... but then it still should be up to the employee whether they want to sacrifice their time off.

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awww you're looking out for your co-workers

I was forced to work "overtime" in Canada on holidays and didn't even get the extra holiday pay... they just pocketed the money. def HR was complicit in that since they send out the paycheques and do the timesheets

I didn't even know they can't ask you mandatory overtime

@jestdotty Yeah... that's the unfortunate reality.

Fuckers just wanting to take advantage of employees.

I'd love it if it was mandatory for the employers to inform their employees that overtime is !mandatory.

But they definitely prefer to stay silent on that... also they tend to get very sour against people who take their stand && say 'no'.

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@D-4got10-01 the overtime wasn't for anything which is why it irritated me. the manager was just neurotic

@jestdotty Which is completely retarded.

I kind of remember something similar at my first job.

A PM pestered my programmer friend on his day off because of something that _seemed_ to be urgent.

Probably wasn't && others managed to do whatever needed to be done w/o him.

Also, that PM's kind of motto was

'We are in game dev. This is no 8h job. We are !working at a greengrocer's.'

Edit:

...the overtime was somewhat paid, but poorly, so !worth it.

@D-4got10-01 ye that's why I didn't go into gamedev

During holidays I work on MY SHIT!

@lungdart My condolences for your termination on the 3rd.

Or company is massive and the top brass decided decades ago that winter break is mandatory company wide, and you must cover it with paid vacation.

It's to reduce costs by shutting down, allow for some yearly maintenance, and avoid people scrambling for baby sitters during school break.

A team manager can ask their team to stay on if the vertical organization has pre approved it but we have to be given sufficient notice.

Only one coworker was told he had to. On the day of. And he's doing non critical tasks. And it's because the manager doesn't like my coworker.

We've had a massive issue with this manager to the point the senior director had to get involved and he's been written up for insubordination. This is 100% going up the chain

@Root *manager's termination

Back when I was still working, there was a new employee who had just completed his trial period. He took his first time off, and the project he was working on went haywire. Management decided to pull him back from his holiday. It ended up costing them the equivalent of 10 months of his salary.

As a joke, the guy’s fiancée, who is a notary, made him sign a “holiday agreement” before they left. In her mock-seriousness, she included a notary clause certifying the date of presentation. The agreement stated that if, for any reason, he worked during their trip, he’d have to finance the renovation of her flat.

According to the law here, an employer who pulls you off your holiday must cover all the expenses caused by doing so.