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Navigatr9277yWelcome to devRant! :) I mean, I'm really not one to speak as I've yet to even finish studies, but as far as I know employers tend to over exaggerate their expectations a bit, I think? I don't know if it's to deter some people or something, but I agree that it's stupid as hell.
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Calling for three years experience for a junior is rediculous - anyone who is still working as a junior after three years is not managing their career correctly. It's pretty common for companies to ask for it though unfortunately. The nice thing is it gives you a nice insight into the way the company views its employees.
Companies should hire at the junior level as an investment - train them up and turn them into exactly the type of mid level developer they need as quickly as possible. When you see a position like this it just screams "we want a mid level dev at a junior level price asap"
btw, just in case you aren't already doing it, make sure you are learning more advanced front end technologies like React, Vue etc and especially testing - no company is going to hire you if all you can do is code the absoloute basics, even as a junior. -
Brolls31157yThe best is when they want x years experience in something, when said thing has existed for < x years.
The fun thing is that most companies get their job listings and initial hiring process for tech roles handled by non-tech people. You can spot these a mile off, and they usually go south pretty quick.
Keep looking, you’ll know when you’ve found a good match!
Don’t be afraid to ask questions either. Regardless of its merit, I find asking them for their Joel Score is a good one, as the techy ones tend to know what it is. -
2gnvr91247y@Navigatr thanks, yeah I think it’s definitely to deter some people - it’s just so demotivating you know? But I’ll keep looking.
Good luck with your studies. -
2gnvr91247y@FoolsGambit I know right, thank you for confirming.
Yea, I know a bit of React and Angular, and I also know a bit of RoR. Not much I know, but I only decided to start taking this seriously a year ago. -
2gnvr91247y@Brolls lol those ones indeed crack me up. Thanks for the advice, I will definitely be asking about the Joel Score at the next company I get an interview at.
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Fuck them! I graduated as a programmer but really liked Linux server stuffs so I applied to a hosting company for the Linux support engineer position and I got it because me and the boss had a good click, I have been working (as hobby) with Linux servers for nearly 8 years now and we liked the same music! Had 0 work experience but the boss didn't care :)
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2gnvr91247y@linuxxx thanks, I’m making sure that I’m focusing on things that’ll make me stand out. And I hope that by telling hiring people my story, maybe they’ll give me a chance.
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Hi everyone, I’m new here and this is also my first rant.
I’m in the job hunting boat once again and I’ve been looking at Junior front-end positions. I thought I’d rant about something that always annoys me when looking through the requirements.
Wait, so in order to land a Junior front-end job, I have to be a freshly graduated person with a Master’s degree in CS, with a minimum of 3 years working experience and all that just to come code in HTML, CSS and JS?
For the love of god, I’m one person damn it. It’s not like I’m a self-taught developer that taught myself those things and more in a shorter period of time after quitting college.
On a more serious note, I’m not by any means claiming that I know everything, but having a CS Master’s degree for these types of positions is clearly ridiculous in my opinion.
Sometimes I wonder if the people writing these things are making it up as they go or whether they’re actually serious.
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