Having a job is really cool. Cooler if it's high paying.

But how many of you have the balls to create your own companies and just have a fucking go at it.

Even if it fails, I'd respect you.

OK wannabe tech bro. Chase that vc funding.

@atheist

Did I hit a nerve? fellow salaryman?

You live in London, UK?

Infested with muslims and pajeets and shitskins.

You'll never own a house there unless your grandma owns one. Life must be grim. English people don't start companies at all lol.

Go to school, GCSE, A levels and what job forever? peasants.

Enjoy your shit salary, high cost of living and PRET coffee and mcdonalds on fridays.

Did it and failed. We had a lot of talent but we were arrogant, thinking that it's all that mattered. We had a cool name though: Sistema

@fruitfcker You're a fucking chad. Respect.

@sidthepajfuk we were young and stupid. But we did almost everything right. We registered the business, had a business tax number and permit, all the things required to run a business.

@sidthepajfuk God you seem angry. Who hurt you?

earlier today I heard something fascinating that explained everything

the pay you get is for the amount of damage you can do

which explained everything

making someone successful software? they don't pay shit cuz they aren't afraid of damage you can do

once the product is established suddenly they realize damage people can do, and pay them well after realizing that fact. but they also don't really have seniors do any real work. the manager / boss has tons of power, but doesn't do anything. and that's what they want. they want you to be too incompetent to do any damage. that's why you get paid the big bucks. to just sit there. and do nothing

even damned salaries are fear-based. d'oh. I felt like my job was just calming the neurosis of my manager... well turns out you get hired by HR/C for the same reason -- calming their neurosis of how much damage you can do

hell I even saw my former roommate discriminate against a political candidate for being "too smart", aka he could do damage

@fruitfcker what mattered?

sitting on both chairs ATM

My life story mate. I have more failed companies than years of working... Not really proud of it, but yeah...

Sure, technically I'm running my own company right now

not everyone has the money for investment nor the means to survive if they fail the business (which btw is 97% of startups)

@jestdotty we didn't have something to show for. We didn't have a product or built anything yet. We were supposed to provide custom tailored software but we didn't have anything, not even mockup.

@fruitfcker now, how is that possible

@sidthepajfuk this was the time right before the start of the Internet boom. We drank the cool aid thinking it wasn't that hard. We even mindlessly followed traditions set by other successful companies like Sun Microsystems (meeting at a local McDonalds). We were naive and stupid.

@fruitfcker you have more experience than most of us now.

> We were naive and stupid.

I want to be naive and stupid. I want to stay naive and stupid. Smart people never do anything with their lives.

Definition of smart in our current world is how has the best grades and who has the nicest job.

Fuck that shit.

@sidthepajfuk something someone forever a student Padawan thing

the hardest part of learning is unlearning so you can learn something new

fuck I forget the Buddhist thing -- ah, beginner's mind!

@jestdotty

I want to learn the power of unlearning too,

Is it like getting rid of a habit?

How do we do that shit

@sidthepajfuk oh I have magic mushrooms actually

strangest thing. you can't even do math on them. turns out that's automatic. and it turns out automatic reflexes do math for you... so then... if you need to do math... you have to re-invent it, manually. it's so fucking weird