I think it's time to delete my second facebook account

I dont like to keep an account too much, people start to know who you are.

Anonymity is freedom of speech

What is your freedom of speech worth if you do it anonymously? That doesn‘t make any sense.
Also, freedom of speach only means that you can say whatever the fuck you want. It doesn‘t mean your opinion must be respected.

@Lensflare well for example in germany I can be arrested for saying israel shouldn't be a state (nor any ethnostate, really, I just dont think countries should apply ethnoreligious discrimination).

But they cannot arrest me if they don't know who I am.

@antigermanist well if they don‘t know who you are, anything you say is meaningless. It could be a program generating your opinions, nobody can tell.
So by being anonymous you practically deprive yourself of the right of free speech, because nobody knows that it’s you who tries to speak freely.

And free speech obviously goes only as far as it doesn‘t break the law. This is something that you learn in school and should be common knowledge.
Yet you are acting like you don‘t know that.

Like someone who would say to a police officer that he is a stupid motherfucker and then crying about your freedom of speech not being respected.

@Lensflare that is why i also post dick pics

It's tatooed so you know it's me.

Not registered of course. Prison tat

@Lensflare If what's I'm saying is against the law, but what I'm saying is right, then the law is wrong.

The trick is to keep thinking after you leave school. You know, they're talking to kids. It's not because you learned it in school that it's true. They learned me we went to congo to build schools and bring civilization.

@antigermanist I actually agree that it shouldn’t be illegal to say this particular thing.

I‘m just saying that obviously you can‘t just say anything and justify that with freedom of speech. There are things that should just be illegal to say, and fortunately that is how it is in every country.

All my accounts are linked to my personal info. I don't feel any restrictions on my speech freedom.

Maybe it's because my behaviour and mindset maturity is >7yo that I don't feel the need to blurt-and-hide. I own all I say.

Most major social platforms are just free data extraction by gov agencies.

your last sentence is kinda dumb. Anonymity is the right to privacy.

Freedom of speech means I can put my face and name out there and attach an opinion/statement to it, without having to worry about getting into trouble with the law.

Ofc, freedom of speech is subjective, and doesn't mean that you can say whatever you want.

@SidTheITGuy egg-fucking-sactly

@Lensflare there are people who exist who don't do the authority fallacy and still like internet anonymity instead of "expert credentials" propaganda sphere

you seem to be obsessed about how to get your opinions to be respected

to be anonymous is very human. you live or die by your immediate actions. it's the greatest benchmark of your worth as a human being. you've isolated all other variables. nobody knows you. they can only judge the final product; all the things you've collected to be "you". instead of the things you think you collected because you went to a place or passed some test, it actually checks if anything of that place or test still exists in you and can you still use it to make meaningful impacts on others, even if they don't know if you've been to the place or learned the things for that test. it's the ultimate meritocracy trial

@Lensflare @SidTheITGuy I'm confused how speech can be bad

I know there are laws but that's not the same as it making sense

@jestdotty yelling fire in a theater puts people in danger if there is no fire. Inciting violence is another. Saying you are going to hurt someone as a credible threat. You can say these things, but there are consequences legally. So I think speech has limits before consequences. Some places have some really draconian laws about speech now though.

Also, no one is required to support you and give you a platform. So an editor is not required to publish your book for example. If you want a platform for speech that goes against the mainstream you have to build a platform or find like minded people to support you.

The government (at least in the USA) is not allowed to limit speech except is cases where it breaks the law. However, the Biden admin was paying major social platforms to limit speech illegally. That will be more apparent in the coming years I think.

@Demolishun wait can we hate speech crime fauci then since he maimed/killed millions of people

these still don't make sense because you don't sue someone for speech for conning you with a sales pitch

you would put someone in prison for saying fire in a theatre instead of if someone got trampled you sue them for the damages of the trampling?

howcome speech is enforced more than pharma murder? if I yell fire in a theatre and OTHER PEOPLE trampled the guy, it means the toxic runoff didn't cause your cancer but 80 other products did, just like there were 80 other people in that theatre

now I even think can't yell fire in a theatre is a retarded law

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I've actually gotten lots of death threats and I'm fine with them but what I would like is a restraining order and the cops actually don't care even if you have CDs of evidence of the guy giving you death threats showing up to your house repeatedly. I was looking into it cuz I was being stalked+death threats

restraining order is fine

@jestdotty again you fail to understand what we are saying. At this point I just feel sorry for your dumbness.

@jestdotty its about putting people in danger or harms way.

@Demolishun *sues anyone using phone towers* ???

you didn't vaccinate, you put me in danger!

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ok I've come out saying free speech, even inciting violence, seems morally fine by me. just because someone says something doesn't mean you should do it. maybe this is where we all went wrong. we put the blame on the words said, instead of acknowledge people as autonomous agents responsible for their own physical actions (and now we live in an era of manipulated NPC media bots because we drew the boundary in the wrong place -- no speech laws would mean people are responsible for their own actions because they'll realize actions have personal consequences, but this disjointed form...?)

the law isn't applied equally in this vague "speech" region. Canada telling people seeking help to MAID themselves shouldn't have ever become a thing -- authoritative speech no less to tell you to kill yourself

these are not principles

I'm more worried about my brainwashed environment than any other instance when it comes to me speak free. I do not post anything or even Facebook for a reason. I got cancelled by so good friends by just having some not mainstream opinion. The world became crazy.