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C0D4669026yIf the team willingly wants to do overtime, then overtime can become an option, if not push that deadline back a few days.
Good luck on your next venture 🎉 -
RTRMS36906yNo ways @COD4, how can we tell teh cleaint we will be ready in 4 week, then spend every one of those 4 weeks being told to make changes, and NO, we cannot move teh deadline at all...
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C0D4669026y@RTRMS if you’re told to make changes during development, adjust the deadline as you go.
If you have agreed on a fixed date, and the client keeps adding things then how does that date allow for extra work? -
RTRMS36906yNot client, Product Director, the guy running the project, into teh ground...
It is a white label application, the first client we are onboarding would effectively be out beta testers, but they also plan on replacing thier current application with hours and are holding back new contracts and business expansions until they can start with us. -
C0D4669026y@RTRMS then that’s his fault 😂
But honestly deadlines only work, if the agreed upon work stays the same. If more changes come in, then estimates need to be recalculated and a new deadline derived to include the extra work otherwise you end up i situations where you are forced to do overtime.
Something I haven’t done in 4 years (forced), but I have done overtime where a project is at final testing and it’s Friday, so not to hold up the deployment. -
RTRMS36906y@C0D4 exactly, everyone is willing 5o work reasonable overtime, but when it's causes by extreme scope creep, then NAF.
What really pisses him is me announcing in the office that I have not worked over time because of the creep, I have worked on much larger projects without working a minute of OT over the last 7 years, that will not change and I instruct the rest of my team to do the same.
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Took a bit of time, but yesterday I sent in my resignation letter, long and some wat detailed list of grievances against the guy running the project.
Gonna suck to leave the team, but working for that man was tantamount to torture.
He actually gave me a lecture on Monday for not forcing my team to work unesesarry over time, because he can do nothing but make changes. I was also trouble for not doing his job and not treating my team like shit, as he does. According to him, forced overtime, disrespect are just the way leadership is.
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