OK - Time to settle this for me. What is up with PHP? Everyone seems to detest it, however when I talk about NodeJs or Python, people say that they are inefficient. So is PHP an efficient mess?

@Jilano And just because you dislike something doesn't mean it's shit.

Another concept people forget.

@Jilano idk I think being efficient might be more important than having a positive opinion on something.

We'll have to find a middle ground on who goes first lol

Because every language is shit in its own clusterfuckery way

You can't please everyone, so everything gets hate

I like PHP xD

Yeah I got nothing informative to add

People hate what they do t understand. PHP is a beast that doesn’t give a fuck what you build or how you build it, it has 1 job, build and run what ever you throw at it - and damn does it do that well.

Because of this, you end up seeing god awful implementations by poorly restrained developers who probably need a lesson or 20 in clean code fundamentals and how to actually structure code, and the tutorials to kill someone over, but I love it anyway, I have not found a use case or tool I could not use PHP when it comes to the web.

@AndSoWeCode hey! Keep me out of this!

This sums it nicely. Probably a little outdated, but still a good read:
https://eev.ee/blog/2012/...

@Jilano I gotcha