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People like to talk others down you mean, yeah, I had a friend that always did it that when I had something to celebrate but just decided that it's some sate attribute the person has. It's still a friend but some jealousy behavuir. Jealosy is just ugly.
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@YourMom how people treat b2plane for example
instead of working out their own issues they gave him attention even though it makes them grossed out, angry, etc. all the while he digs himself a deeper whole. his posts are justifications so he's haunted by something, and if he listens to the words then the haunting would get worse -- hence limiting
but it happens on some occasions everywhere
@Lensflare doesn't view me as human for example, but it isn't malicious or angry or disgust for me. it's just treating me like an inanimate object which is a pretty common psychological position for myself so it's whatever
a lot of times though I can't tell the motivation, only see that people are addicted to harming each other. probably due to ignorance. but I say that yet if I wasn't ignorant also I'd have the solution, so -
@jestdotty
> Lensflare doesn't view me as human for example
wat? 🤨
> it's just treating me like an inanimate object
huh? 🧐
> a lot of times though I can't tell the motivation, only see that people are addicted to harming each other.
"mimimi I'm the victim, mimimi I don't understand why people behave that way…"
Meanwhile protecting b2plane lol. What a joke. -
YourMom5132dI think we categorize people. It is not the same as dehumanizing someone though. There are people I share information with that I don't share with other people. This is me categorizing people with barriers that can and can't be crossed. Probably mostly subconscious though.
If someone in person or online appeals to my sense of compassion I will often soften my stances. So maybe that shifts what category I have placed someone in. But at the same time due to pattern noticing of people I am wary of some people still. -
@Lensflare well tell me what that comment was if not dehumanizing
"wait, does that mean you understand her?" -
@jestdotty easy:
Not understanding what someone tries to say is absolutely not the same as dehumanizing.
For example I dehumanize spammers and I understand them.
I often don’t understand you but I don’t dehumanize you.
Also you have convinced me to not take you seriously anymore, so I‘ll assume that you are fucking around again and make your "jokes".
Consequences. -
@Lensflare what's not understandable
how is not understanding not dehumanizing in this instance I don't know. we'd have to delve more into dehumanization
from my projection-end I can't humanize that which I don't understand
but the way you spoke also reeks of dehumanization. because you speak to him instead of to me. but I am the holder of the answer. so why am I getting such disrespect -
@jestdotty so when you don’t understand someone, you dehumanize them?
Wow. Just wow.
And then again you accuse me of the thing that you are doing.
It gets old. -
jestdotty595619h@Lensflare it's impossible for me to humanize something I don't understand
I don't see people unless they act human. this leads to just not interacting with them (or simply the parts of them that don't seem human, too much at least in some instances). but you don't view me as human yet interact with me. this means you're projecting dehumanizing energy at me -
Lensflare1912417h@jestdotty why do you keep saying that I don’t see you as human?
I say it again, as explicitly as humanly possible (pun intended):
I do see you as human. I am not dehumanizing you.
Your weird practice of dehumanizing people who you don’t understand is not normal behavior. Don’t project it onto others. -
jestdotty595616h@Lensflare it makes perfect sense. you don't humanize animals, but first you must recognize whether what you're looking at is an animal or human
so you would end up humanizing AI bots for example, because they look like humans, but you humanize what you don't understand... which is an error in my view -
jestdotty595616h@Lensflare dehumanizing is a positive action. I don't recognize the human. I don't express that they lack human. I just go on about my day. I respect humans. respect means to look again -- so I simply look once, don't understand it as human, so don't look again
you're doing something else though. you're "respecting" or looking again, but it's disrespectfully
humans like to put other humans into negative and self-limiting emotions a lot
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