Hhhh... it is tough staying upbeat and enthusiastic when you go through interview after interview, 100 of them. They expect you to be that, though...

tech job market is absolutely fucked bro. what can we do.

but all you exude is upbeat and enthusiastic!

@jestdotty Sarcasm, jestdotty..? lol.

@CaptainRant no lol

@jestdotty Well then, thank you. The thing is that after so many interviews and bad sleeping nights in a week, I am a demotivated, depressed zombie mess and then it becomes hard to show up enthusiasm for a position I'm not exactly interested in but I apply for anyway 'cause I need a job...

To clarify: I'm passionate about the things I'm truly passionate about, like JavaScript.

The reality is confusing nowadays. They say to apply to positions you're not qualified for, or you're barely 60% qualified for but to me this appears to be a waste of time because they want the perfect candidate, always... I always trip up on some perfection they ask of me.

By the way.. I don't think I've seen you reply this fast before. lol.

@CaptainRant coincidence

yeah I don't know. through a series of events I'm basically a zombie rn. but even before then I can't get excited for a job anyway due to reasons

not dived that deeply into trying to get out of my situation as you have. I wanna say knowledge and stuff to enlighten the way but I don't have it

@jestdotty Sincoidence

Life is eventful, isn't it? I would never get excited about any job either.

I'm sure you definitely have enlightening knowledge.

Excited for a job no, excited for having new nerds to talk to yes ;P

Hmmm I just got a job that works with spring, never used it before (java sure because of android, but that was ~5 years ago since they switched to kotlin)

@CaptainRant I talk confident about everything that I just have touched. First of all, it's probably still more experience than the competition really has. And they're doing it as well.

I've read that it was typically females who only apply if they're a 100% fit. The power thing the men do is that applying for jobs they are not competent for (YET).

How is it possible to be a perfect fit anyways. Also, these days the lines to information is so short.. Vue experience -> give it a few weeks and a dev is on level.

Just be confident, that's all. You don't have to lie, you just have to bring things in a positive way.

@BordedDev I was bit shocked by spring when i converted my deep search project to spring. It became so fucking huge. Oh damn. I think it can be considered professional, but I can't sell that to myself anymore. I truely thing, after converting the maps server to C, that the C variant (with mongoose and cjson) was shorter than the spring version. But anyway, I think you made the right choice, you finally have stuff to learn again and sometimes, typing a lot is a lot of fun if you find your flow within the system.

@BordedDev I don't do well with people in general, so I don't get excited about it. lol

Never used Spring before? :O I have, a few years. As you may know, it's one, ginormous ecosystem of enterprise application molds. I think it also includes data annotations. Spring bootstraps the entire setup process of a webapp so you don't have to do everything yourself. You just run the main SpringBootMain.java and the whole webapplication is started up for you. The downside is... if something goes wrong inside it (sometimes because of IoC and dependency injection), you have to figure out the problem through the whole stack trace of proxies.. urgh proxies.. annoying...

And yeah, Java. I think it only got cooler starting version 12 or something. Or even version 8, with streams? I forget.

@retoor Haaaaa?! Ryouniii?! :anime: I would go nuts if I only just touched a tech. One of the reasons as well is that when I do mention it, they want me to have three years experience in it minimum, otherwise it's worth nothing to them.

lmfao, females. I know the power thing, I do it, but when I do it hundreds of times and I get rejected for it, I start to think it's not worth doing it. I've gone through all the idealisms, including that one. Companies don't care if you want to learn or not. They just want you to know it, period.

It's possible. :D A few weeks.. hm.. I'd say 8 weeks. But then again, yeah.. not all companies have the space for the employee learning. Then again, those are the toxic ones. One I applied for got the interviewer mad at me for saying I want to learn. No, no! Productivity! The product! lmao.

I'll work on the confidence.

@retoor for sure, it's why I've always considered using languages like java or C# for webservers an exercise for the mentally unwise. Still seams to be the local flavour...

@CaptainRant be confident you'll know it within 1 week... People in general sure, plop me with a member of the general public it will be a strained conversation for sure (especially since I have disdain for sport and the people who consider "exercise"/"gains" important)

I just saw a post that sounded rad but I'd have to learn Haskell (they said willingness to learn Haskell at least, awww) and I can't do anything now with my brain

hoping to land somewhere deadend making jackshit. I don't even need a lot of money since I know finance tricks. but I need SOME money ffs

@jestdotty Haskell.. haven't heard that in a while.

jestdotty, how about money with YouTube? Fiverr? etc. Hm.. Maybe not possible? If you can, you could do other online things that make some money, just being sure they're not a scam.