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My car would prioritize people based on how much resources the society had spend on them weighted against their potential returns. My car would try and save a grown up person over a kid.
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CptFox16196yMine would assess the route with minimal judiciary cost, then find an ethically satisfying justification for picking this route and log it to blackbox 😏
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@FuckJava there's no good way to measure the resources spent or the returns. You can't give a number for the value of a person's life.
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My car would put the safety of its passengers first. While the rest of the car designers debate ethics, this car would be a market hit, for obvious reasons.
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@electrineer
True but you can make an educated guess that society has spent more resources on a person in business attires, surgeon attires, a police officer, a solder, ... than a baby in prams -
@bkwilliams it would do anything that's necessary for saving its passengers, that would be its primary duty. Sure, it would slam the brakes, but it would rather run over some innocent child than driving into a concrete wall.
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@FuckJava that's not a 'good way'. And some people would have to stay away from traffic because all cars would want to kill them first
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@electrineer Even if all of mankind took a vote and decided on how to quantify the value of a person, there’d be people who’d disagree. At some point, ya just gotta say “Fuck it. You’re a ten. You’re a six. You’re a five. The five dies!” 😈😂
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Jifuna37416yProbably an unpopular opinion:
First of all the chance that a car stumbles upon the trolley situation is very small.
Second the car has "super human" sensors so it would probably see it way before and react to it (like tesla did a few times)
Third if it happens it would more likely be the other person fault/choice to drive/walk infront of the car instead of waiting for a red light or some other reason to act dumb.
So I don't think we should build ethical rules in a car. I think we should act on for example the protection of a person. So if we have a child and a wall, we should go for the wall because the car has airbags (and the child not).
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Lythenas2456yI really don't think there is a point in investing a lot of time into thinking about this. Either way someone will get killed at some point. And if it is the driver or a passenger their family will be angry and if it is someone in the street their family will be angry. It will be dramatized in media either way. And politicians will probably say they will do something about it. But ultimately you can't. The only thing you could do about it is analyze how human choose in these situations. At least that way autonomous cars won't be less ethical than humans.
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sSam15016yMy car would try to hit as many people as possible and kill the passengers in the end somehow.
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@Nanos
You didn't get my pun. Nonetheless, in this case, I am with Uber. The cyclist had used ice, and Uber's car correctly decided to eradicate the substance abuser. That's exactly what I said my car would do in the first comment. Only if I knew how to build a sensor that would detect substance abusers in blink of an eye -
@Nanos
There's a difference between an addict and someone who has had their drinks tainted. A tangible, measurable, physical and biological different. I just need to find a sensor to measure it precisely -
@oreru
I don't act like that. While driving, I see pedestrians with scores hovering above their heads.
1000pts for the priest
0pts for the doctor
-1000pts for the nurse
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@Nanos
Any controlled substance
Sugar and salt don't cause physical dependence BTW
Also, spike me once, shame on you. Spike me twice, shame on me -
@Nanos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Anyone who says they are addicted to sugar can go hang themselves. -
@RustyCookie
It's in oho which means it's neither safe enough, nor fast enough. But good try -
Pickman6566y@FuckJava I would probably make it customizable. After all my primary reason to produce a car would be to sell it. I can already see the slogan "a car that supports your ethics".
And then I would probably stop driving because... People's ethics, are what they are you know.
Anyway from a moral point of view forcing one of many possible ethical choices on your customer is probably immoral (or at least that's what I could tell the police I guess). -
@Pickman
Very well said sir. It's about $$$. We could let them customize it... Drivers in Saudi Arabia probably want to hit female drivers; drivers in Australia undoubtedly will go for bicycles; and so on...
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