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What the fuck is a framework? I have never hated a term this much, overused piece of shit word.

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    Even Urban Dictionary got it right.
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    Lemme introduce you to the word (well acronym but same thing lol) "AI."

    That's an over used word if I've ever seen one.
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    AI Framework 🤯
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    @Quack Blockchain AI Framework.
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    @EmberQuill Blockchain ai framework on the cloud
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    @Stuxnet running in containers.

    (We could probably keep this going forever but I have to be at work in seven hours so I'm going to bed lol)
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    What's wrong with "framework" as a term?! I take issue with many terms, but I actually think that's one of the better ones.

    It's something that acts as the basis for your code, something which you build the majority of (or a large chunk of) your code on. So in Java web land we have the play framework, the Spring framework, the JavaEE framework, etc. - all of which are used as the basis for web services / applications.

    Seems quite descriptive to me.
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    It’s an sdk/library with best practices and boilerplate bootstrapping. It’s got rocket science built in and it just works (tm) out of the box. It’s your code on steroids but turbocharged and deployed directly to the cloud, provisioned with love by automagically computer learning. It values convention over configuration but it’s extensible and only limited by your imagination. We’ve taken the best parts you love and reimagined it from the perspective of asking the question, what if you spent more time writing less code and less time writing more code?
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    @EmberQuill @Quack
    You two missed some

    Serverless lamda based AI blockchain machine learning crypto framework.
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    It's a wrapper for elemental functionalities, so it covers higher functionality. The difference between some nice libraries providing some nice tools and a framework is, that the framework might take rule over the conventions of the original language.

    And if a framework is not supported any longer - you're done - and if a framework has some shitty updates, you also may be screwed.

    Beware! It might force you to use maven, cmake or other build-tools - it might bind you to a certain IDE or even may tear your software apart - like to need external xml-configs to be not considered at compiletime, but might error at runtime then - (spring / boot - fuck ya!) - you can really mess up things with framworks. So thanks - my advice - avoid them where you can.
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    @C0D4

    Did you mean
    Scalable serverless lambda based microservice AI blockchain machine learning crypto network?
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    Add JS at the end to make sure there's an official javascript wrapper for it.
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    @Hazarth no framework listed.
    But close
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    @C0D4 oof "network" was supposed to be "framework".
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    @aviophile

    I share same hate towords frameworks....

    Thats why I created my own very slim fw, and i plan to add "slap-ons" to it. (Becouse naming them "plugins" sounds meh, and I use it on my own and sometimes someone at my work).

    And yes, it's literally called "Fuck Fat Frameworks For Fucks Sake"

    It's made by me for me. I figured it's just plain easier for me to create something that does what I need without all the bullshit I dont want nor need.

    Edit:
    Oh wait, i figured author hated fw so much he refuses their existance lol
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    @DubbaThony just give us the link already
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    @gaffletron

    I would highly suggest you spending 2 days to make something perfect for you, yourself.

    And then see how it runs, how you can improve it etc.

    Ive done it and I dont regret a single microsecond used for making it. And i bet too many devs wouldnt like it becouse its small and lightweight (4mb php ram limit is very very comfortable for it), dosent contain a single bit of shit I never asked for etc.

    Edit:
    Forgotten i didnt went straight to the point lol.

    Many devs will find some parts missing from it. Take any fw, and strip out anything that is not nessesary, so wont share. Make yourself your own thing that will satisfy you in 100%, not less. Only you can deliver that to yourself.
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    @DubbaThony ha! Yeah I’ve built my own framework a couple times now. It is absolutely a great idea and recommended for anyone who has the chance. It’s really the main time you get to actually try to dig into existing frameworks!
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    @gaffletron

    I actually was serious, and sarcasm-o-metter went high for some reason lol.

    For me its much harder to learn others fw than creating own thing that, sure, has less features, but is much easier to understand by me, and if anything breaks i can in matter of 2-3 minutes figure out if:
    - i used fw wrong
    - fw has bug
    - my actual code is bugged

    And most of times its #3, never #1 and few times #2 happened.
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