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After a court ruling, the privacy focused email provider Tutanota has been forced to create plaintext copies of emails.

In the future, a court can order copies of emails, before they are saved encrypted on the email servers. Tutanota says, end-to-end encrypted emails would remain secure and they would "rather want to implement extended privacy enhancements for customers instead of extended access for government entities", but they would follow the law.

A few months ago, in a similar case, the constitutional court ordered another mail provider - Posteo - to save IP addresses on court request, even if they do not save them regularly.

Interestingly, the law the court based its decision on, might be not longer relevant for mail services.

Source (German): https://sueddeutsche.de/digital/...

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  • 4
    5y
    Wtf!!!

    @linuxxx you use tutanota don't you?
  • 3
    5y
    What the fuck?! This is ridiculous.
  • 4
    5y
    China copies our tech, and we copy their surveillance state.
  • 3
    5y
    Yep. 😕

    Time to form my own country with sane laws.
  • 1
    5y
    It is sad to hear that.

    "Oh, it is for security". Well, I see it as the government installing a camera on each room of your house, including the bathroom, so, if necessary, they can check the videos.
  • 0
    5y
    We need this though otherwise right wing subhuman trolls will be able to share their despicable lies to each other such as that the EU isn't all that great,. maybe trump really isn't the devil incarnate, Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself and Eric Ciaramella is the whistleblower.
  • 2
    5y
    @C0D4 Yup, awaiting their reaction already (emailed them the second I saw the news) as for what's exactly going on.

    If this is true, fuck me and I'm moving to something else (not protonmail, fuck no)
  • 1
    5y
    To clarify:
    - Mails, already encrypted, will not (and cannot) be affected by this.
    - Only unencrypted ingoing mails (to Tutanota) are affected.
    - They are only affected, if there is a court order for this specific account.

    Nevertheless, it is alarming that a law (which is quite dated, intended for classical telephone providers) to get "stored data" can be interpreted as a service provider has to keep or generate data, which under normal conditions would never be stored.

    Interestingly, after the European court declared an email provider is no telephone providers (in legal sense), the law theoretically cannot be used against Tutanota.
  • 0
    3y
    @Root need a military.

    I'll volunteer. Of course I'm only one dude so the minute they call in an airstrike I'll just be a tiny red splat on a mountain side pictured in someone's binoculars.

    Gonna need an army to counter that.

    Or a really secluded place.

    Maybe if we all pool our money we can buy a doomsday bunker and start a cul--a new society.
    Or we could all just move to Antarctica and restart over there.
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