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"root", as it (normally) is the root of all other branches. But "main" would be fine too.
And please add a link to the source of that screenshot. -
matt-jd10095yNewthink as its a new way to think :)
All this renaming really makes me think of newspeak -
Suddenly I regret not becoming a theoretical physicist instead. Nobody would care enough to wreak havoc there.
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olback107945yGit does not reference "slave" anywhere in its terminology. I don't see the problem.
This is just Github jumping on the political correctness band wagon trying to show that they care. In my opinion, this is just a bad marketing stunt.
There was never a problem with branches called master. If there are, please tell me. -
@olback Apparently all terms used in context of slavery should be avoided. As to why we still use "cotton", "supervisor" and "owner", it's probably because we're all racist.
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@Lor-inc I've seen people trying to say we shouldn't use the word owner for sports team owners
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fuck fuck fuck. That's so dumb. I really lost hope in humanity.
Github has nothing to do with race or religion. Why can't we keep it as a separate thing?
This link has never been more appealing.
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gau1av3365y@Oktokolo Many of the tech giants are doing the same. Go lang, PHPunit lib and others have showed their intentions too. https://google.com/amp/s/...
There's an issue being opened in the microsoft repo under typescript regarding this. Here's the link to that: https://github.com/microsoft/... -
Root797675yIt doesn't even mean "boss"
It literally means "master record"
Are sound studios racist for "mastering" tracks too? Are computers racist for having "master boot records?" Is Ramsay racist for hosting "Masterchef?" Niel DeGrasse Tyson for his "Astronomy Master Class?" Is "Mastercard" racist? Are "Master brewers" racist? Are cottonballs?
English has homonyms and words with similar but subtly different meanings; "primary," "main," and "master" mean different things.
Also: outside of some humor, I haven't seen racism anywhere but from old folks in small Minnesota towns. and honestly, it was almost all about "Japs," not blacks. and lots of Norweigan/Scandnavian jokes. Apart from the old foggies, I've seen almost no racism towards "minorities" -- blacks, mexicans, etc. (You know, about 65% of the country). But I have seen a scary increase in racism towards whites. "It's okay to be white" being hate speech, or "you can't be racist towards white people," or "white people are racist by nature." Or "White people shouldn't reproduce." Or better yet! "You better apologize for your white privilege!" Sure, let me just apologize for the color of my skin. All of these sound pretty fucking racist to me.
I've also noticed black people in my area (Las Vegas) talking more infrequently to white people. The black clerks, stockers, etc. at grocery stores, gas stations, etc. now simply will not talk to me, my family, or other white people unless they are required to, and even then only the bare minimum. but they're chatty as hell with anyone with black skin. feels pretty racist.
Despite seeing almost no signs of racism, it's "systemic?" I get that I'm going to be less aware of it, but you'd think I would see *something,* especially being in black areas. but the only racism I ever see is towards my own race from those screaming "racist." It's insane.
But sure, let's rename everything that might possibly be construed as a reference to race or slavery. That will totally fix things. -
@Root Yeah you right. I have heard so many racist things from black people. They think its right to be racist just because they are black. They should be at the same level of respect that they want to get back.
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@Bybit260 I wish I had a dollar for every time I read/heard "can't be racist towards the oppressor." 🙄
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Root797675y@Bybit260 Golden rule: treat others how you want to be treated.
If you act proper and respectful and classy, you'll be respected and treated well.
If you act like a child throwing a temper tantrum, expect to be treated like a child throwing a temper tantrum. -
We should call it "shut-the-fuck-up".
I swear if something else becomes the de facto, I create master and use it instead. As it should be. -
@molaram
I don't care about the original reason for the change at all. "root" is shorter and more specific.
It also is highly unlikely, that people, who actually are able to find that extremely obscure cotton plant link aren't fine with "master" in the context of a VCS repo.
So just don't tell them about the cotton plants and they will be fine with "root"... -
@netikras From a model standpoint "root" is actually correct. A branch is a collection of nodes stemming from a single root, where a root to a collection of nodes is their first common ancestor. In this regard the master branch is literally the root of the git tree. (Unless you use develop, in which case you definitely shouldn't rename master to root.)
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I'd sidestep this fictitious issue by not having a master at all. There's dev, release, lts, fix/**, feature/** and that's it. The more meaningful reason to ditch master is that it's neither problem domain (different teams use it differently) nor solution domain (git doesn't require for the tree to have a single root and the branch isn't treated differently internally), ultimately making it a bad name.
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theuser47815y@Lor-inc On the flipside, the reason to not ditch master is because it just fucking works, everybody knows its the default branch to rule them all (we need something to be defaulted), and also because there is no legitimate reason to start fucking around with it in the first place.
I will ask my african born colleague later, she's probably been laughing her face off the entire weekend. -
@theuser In what realm is the purpose of master obvious? The two most popular are "It's the first branch so it should be develop" and "it's the default so it should be release, as that's what we want users to build". The fact that these two are equally valid proves that this is an inobvious, bad name.
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@theuser Yeah, but that's just your project. If you observe a single instance it's really fucking hard to observe inconsistencies.
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Why not just ask the user what they want to name their first branch, when using the GitHub online GUI?
I personally have no problem with "master branch".
Just like Master's degree, or having mastered a subject, it comes from the Latin Magister, which literally just means teacher, mentor, person who has learned enough to instruct others.
The fact that the word has been used in a more abusive context shouldn't immediately disqualify the word from being used. -
@Root You gave me idea to start campaign to change MasterCard to maybe SoyCard, because why not.
With pushing this stupid shit, they are making me angry. I wouldn't be surprised by second "hitler" rise. Those morons should wake up and see the world what it is, they wont destroy racism, slavery by doing what are they doing now. And looking at examples like Chaz I am more depressed. -
Has anyone ever talked to / read a complaint from someone who felt oppressed while working with or seeing a master branch? Who came up with this shit first? Do we have a root source for this mess? Some SJW blog post or something? Even if someone's actually offended, why should that be a reason to offend the intellect of so many more with stunts like this?
Let's go ahead with this, but I also suggest other git hosting companies to all adopt different names, so that people can congregate on one of these services depending on their default branch, forming new religions. I suggest adding your preferred default branch name to your CV, that way you can signal virtue on there too, even without charity work experience. -
I don't wanna live on the same planet with these people. Can someone accidentally throw a few bombs on the US please?
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theuser47815y@MaggiSeasoning I have a little bit of intel. I talked to a colleague of mine and she is from Ethiopia. She had never in her life thought about it in terms of black slavery and she is still laughing at us white guys for this.
Tbh, at this point I really do hope this is just a very well timed joke that has spiraled out of control. -
@theuser Wondering if they brought the issue up with Linus Torvalds yet, as master is a Git default, rather than a GH one. Let's also remember the huge amounts of direct and indirect references to master, all the tutorials, books, guides, documentation, etc that assume master to be the default, or by accident. Not to mention build/test/deploy pipelines. The next logical step would be for Google to start penalizing resources where master is used instead of <correct-name>.
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@lamka02sk nah just gather them all in Wyoming (we all know it's a government lab and not an actual state anyways) and wipe them out.
Legitimately it's a small minority, but stupidity screams the loudest. -
I see a lot of people complaining. Fortunately irony is not the only action left.
Someone launched a petition against this nonsense. Here's the link: https://change.org/p/... -
@alexbrooklyn We can always hope it does. At least it will be a clearer sign that people do not agree.
If they do not react to it, that will ultimately mean they're so entitled in their bullshit that reasoning them will get nowhere
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