Got my DNA test report today
And it says i am genetically dumb , so that’s interesting

How TF can you even deduce that from DNA?!

@Fast-Nop I thought the same but they have detailed explanation too in summery they said i have mutation in DRD2 gene that results in brain not to learning things by feedback. i have no idea of actual mechanics of this

Sorry bro....we really wanted to tell you but maybe it is better this way...

@hardfault Sounds like you're on the fast track for a big management career.

@Fast-Nop exactly

@N00bPancakes 😂 much better at least i can now blame my DNA for all the fuckups

If you read about the state of the art of neuroscience then you find that the data basically shows certain ethnic groups test at a lower IQ. They found some of this out back in the 70s and everyone who reported their findings were labeled racist. Current neuroscientists are finding similar things today. Supposedly circumstances such as social status does not play a role into this. I have my doubts about social status claims though.

@Bybit260 yeah the was they printed the document is poor , but the explanation Is correct

@Demolishun don’t know bro but my understanding is neuroscience is like RAM or flash i can change the code means i can train my brain to do things differently
But GEMONE is ROM , it’s decided when i was just a single cell, so genetics findings are more assertive not so much dependent on environment

@hardfault I don't know bro... There are some people that get a high IQ and are dumb AF.

@Bybit260 yeah but is vice versa true ? I guess not

@hardfault The explanation seems to be logical, but who knows. I'm not a neuroscientist.

Is someone pulling a gattaca? 😝

@SortOfTested jeez thanks now i will watch that movie to get hints on how to patch this code bug in me 😂

@molaram actually wasn’t willing but my company offers it for free so i went for it

@molaram 😂 I think it’s illegal to do that based on genes,
But also they hired me so.... 🧐 who is more dumb?

@molaram i mean in human genome law actions taken based on gene traits is illegal, at least in my country
Yeah they can make other Aquisition and remove me ( if i give them chance to which I don’t )

Don’t stress to much about this, everyone uses their brain/thinks a little differently.
A DNA test alone is not comprehensive enough to call someone dumb.
Plus the human brain is incredible, it can adopt to all sort of things.

well, do you repeat errors more than the average human being? what is the sample data? across which variables are you comparing?

This is pure bullshit and even if you do have a reduced amount of D2 receptor bindings in your brain it doesn't mean your brain/body doesn't compensate for it in a different unique manner as our body tend to do.

Who knows, that compensation may prove to be more valuable than people that have too much of that D2 receptor binding in their brains.

@bioDan @hardfault DNA is more like nvram with a lot of redudancy(think of something like raid16). the internal structure is, to compare it, like an heavely optimized quaternary(base4) with appended data. All we do with crispr cas is fiddling with the quaternary like an hexeditor.

my point is: we can "read" our dna, but we have no idea what does what on the 1% of the important part.

@stop but aren’t traits defined buy alleles and phenotype, the studies that was done on me is based on fact that they already new the alleles for phenotype
they said it’s not full dna sequencing they just see the part of dna which they are sure about what it represents

@bioDan agree i read the research paper that explains it.
The results were based on sample size of 65 that’s really less
but they found strong correlation in multiple such such studies

And yes I think i do repeat errors a lot( my manager would second that :P), also i usually discard any feedback, specially learning new motor skills is tuff for me

@hardfault you went for it because it's free... Says all we need to know about your intelligence 😜

@Demolishun @Bybit260 IQ tests are flawed by nature. You want to test intelligence but can't demonstrate intelligence without knowledge. If you don't have the specific knowledge required to solve the IQ questionnaire you will fail hard. This can even be in formulation/construct of the question (misunderstandings). That is why you can train for them and doing them influences the result of the next one significantly. This might also explain the ethical discrepancy.

@hjk101 also: iq-tests are relative to an group at a specific point in time.

@hjk101 Also there is something called curiosity ( I thought it goes without saying, if you are smart enough to understand 🤪)

@PreyK Yeah, DNA may give you better or worse potential at something, but it's also what you make out of it. Like, you won't become a top athlete without the proper DNA, but that certainly won't keep you from becoming a pretty fit guy.

@stop it’s actually not an IQ test they didn’t ask me any questions,
All they mean is the my brain does not have “avoidance based learning” or feedback based learning

@Fast-Nop about the athletics part it did say i have advantages at sprinting and power sport like boxing
I laughed my ass of as i can barely walk without falling

@Demolishun The social status part works like this: your parents are in the trash part of society and don't give shit about education. There's not a single book in your household. Neither in the neighbourhood of your trailer park. Nobody gives you positive strokes for any sort of intellectual learning. By the time you're old enough to educate yourself, that train has long gone.

Conversely, if you're a kid in a well-educated household, you grow up with a lot of intellectual stimulus, and your parents appreciate and reward it if you learn shit and ask questions. Your parents put you in a private school where you aren't being slowed down by trailer park kids. Once you're 8, you are practically ahead of a 2 year old trailer park kid, and the gap only widens.

@hardfault DNA is only about potential, but you have to realise it, and that requires training. In your case, you'd have to do anaerobic training like progressive weight lifting plus protein-rich nutrition. Would be interesting to see if you'd really pack up muscle quicker than others. If nothing else, you'd look good. ^^

"Once you're 8, you are practically ahead of a 12 (TWELVE) year old trailer park kid, and the gap only widens."

Unfortunate typo.

@Fast-Nop
Yep. This is the long form of the "until we fix poverty culture" argument I made earlier.

@Fast-Nop you made my day

@Nanos i did it from the local R&D startup I don’t think they provides services overseas
But try to search for labs that do research on human genome around your area.

tldr:medication is really advanced theese days, you can push your limits, the brain is awesome.

(1/2)
If you feel like something’s holding you back in your head ask a professional neurologist/psychiatrist.
I have a brain-disfunction where my brain don’t produce enough serotonin (wich is for basically everything) and my potential social/cognitive functions was way less compared to other people.
I could function with it for 20 years, learned to code, learned PGPU compute, shader programming and a lot of math heavy stuff (no idea how xd)
It felt like every time i worked on something cognitively there was a really thick fog in the back of my brain and half of the stuff i needed was there but i just could’t reach it.
With a lot of cognitive excersise, working on hard problems because i can’t do it till my head hurt, each time the fog became a little bit less over the years.

(2/2)
I ended up with “enough brainplace” to wrap my head arund enough stuff to function as a shader programmer/gamedev.
Once i got diagnosed it turned out that not producing enough serotonin was not the only problem but because of not enough serotonin i was more receptive to psychosis and ended up getting it.
Medication and monthly trips to a psychiatrist and control ended up helping way more than i imagined.
This was 2-3 years ago.
Looking back it’s like me vs ME++
I have to take meds every morning but other than that i can live a full life with everything.

@PreyK thanks for sharing this, and congrats on upgrade to ME++ 👍🏻

@Nanos yeah but they didn’t mention what type of learning my brain uses

they just said it’s not feedback based learning , so my question is what are other ways to learn because if i can isolate that my problem is solved

I have to goto to the lab but wasn’t able to because of lockdown, they offered DNA based counseling too.

@hardfault Feedback learning will also work, maybe just a little more effort. So, learning to dance with teacher feedback may be more difficult for you.

Another type of learning would be analysis based - and where applicable, that's even faster than monkey style trial and error.

@cafebabe Don’t want to steal OP’s post any more 😀 Dm me on twitter if you intrested/wanna talk more about it (@PreyKW)

"Also i am genetically dumb (tested)" Damn, bro. 😂

ok baby

@Bybit260 I carry my imperfections with pride !!

@hardfault We are in an age where genetics is not rom anymore. With advent of CRISPR tech we can change the genes of an organism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

The thing that bothers me most about Corona Virus is that nobody is asking if it has a DNA payload designed to change the organism it infects. It is sourced from China (maybe not originally) and China is big on CRISPR tech.

@Demolishun the answer is: the virus changes the dna, but it cant do it in the whole body and the target is the reproduction of the virus. the virus is very probable not artificial enhanced.

@Demolishun that’s not how viruses work
Virus is made of protein, lipid and genetic material
Corona is a RNA virus
It attaches to the host cell if it’s protein receptor is present, then it uses cells ribosomes to execute its RNA sequence.
It’s like cell is a microcontroller and virus a) takes the execution handle
b) executes it’s code on cells resources thereby destroying the cell

It’s doesn’t modify the dna it just destroys the cell

@hardfault

"In March 2020, CRISPR-modified virus was injected into a patient's eye in an attempt to treat Leber congenital amaurosis."

@Demolishun “crispr modified virus” means viral genetic material is modified not the host cells genetic material,
I guess DNA virus can do it , but not sure about RNA virus

@hardfault CRISPR is designed to change DNA in the organism it infects. It is a DNA transport technology.

Could be worse. Could be a midwit like myself and so many others.

Just smart enough to see what *could* be accomplished

Just dumb enough to always fall short.

And just enough in-between to overestimate your own abilities.