I don't hate PHP.

Only server-side JavaScript fanboys do.

@hitzoR my much older co workers are vitrol about php. To them java is life.

Join the club :) I am actually quite a fan of it, especially when it's used with a good framework (codeigniter is my personal favourite).

@LucaScorpion I am quite the fan of Laravel personally, mostly because of the ecosystem around it.

@LucaScorpion I am very fond of the symfony2 framework and ecosystem, and even in plain php projects I like to include its components.

living <form> since php 1st code till php rip.

@Ronald I've worked with Laravel for a bit, really nice framework too! Though for the small projects I'm doing it always feels somewhat overkill.

@LucaScorpion Shame that they kill it, no major update for a long time

There are more of us out there that actually like php but you have to search a bit. Maybe because it's somehow trending to hate it.

I lover PHP myself. I'm also getting more and more into JavaScript (nodejs) but I still prefer PHP.

@LucaScorpion try Lumen for small projects

Symfony, Silex, and Slim FTW!

Anyone who atleast heard of Nette framework?

It is not cool so be careful.. you will be kicked out by JavaScript fanboys...

Ι develop in wordpress language, too.

I do, but mostly for ease-of-use reasons. I'm not a web developer by trade and whenever I use PHP to build a website for something I need I feel like I have to spend so much time setting up my environment that it's insane. I find myself using a node server just so I can move on with my life. Not to say I like Javascript either, but I like it better than setting up Apache :P

tl;dr ur wrong and u should feel bad /s

@Notebookdeviant Why do you set up apache manually? Now that's offensive ;)

On a more serious note: There's docker and the image php:7-apache for a reason. (And even before docker I had vagrant running a puppet script setting up a base system.)

@k0pernikus i think alot of people are behind with using vagrant and docker for dev purpouses.

Laravel and CI are both love.

Ain't nobody got time fo' that.