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lastNick5763y@Cyanide There are a lot of statistics floating around with one result: iPhone/iPad/Apple TV/Apple Watch users spend more on apps. They purchase more apps, they spend more on a single app and they are also more used to subscriptions. Also there is no way to copy bought apps from one device & account to another without paying for them again.
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kamen69253yThe part with lock screen wallpapers can be recreated easily with Tasker, although I agree it's nice to have it natively.
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@lastNick I'm a backend engineer, never worked with app development. Why is that Apple iOS Apps are more lucrative than developing for Android? Doesn't Android have a larger market share and more potential users?
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kamen69253y@plgonzalezrx8 Seems like the more "expensive" platform - if the phones there are by average more expensive, it's natural to assume people will be more willing to pay for apps (although I'm not sure where to draw the line after you factor in the crazy developer licenses you have to pay up front to even get an app published on the App Store).
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@lastNick And do they spend so much more that it balances out the insane dev expenses and smaller market share?
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"[...] iPhone lacking a ton of basic features, apps not supporting functionalities ... overall advancement of the Apple ecosystem"
This is wholly unsubstantiated. What "basic features and functionalities" does it lack as a phone? Apple's app ecosystem is awesome, their hardware absolutely shreds in raw performance, and they have cool new tech like the lidar (sure, they're not the first to do it, but it's there and it's done well). If anything, historically Android has always played catch-up to iOS in apps - more number of apps != better apps. I'm too tired to have yet another "boo Apple sucks unconditionally" discussion, but their ecosystems are *at least* equivalent, because if nothing else every major app has both Android and iOS support.
I don't even like iPhones, I use Android, but this just felt a bit too much like a shot in the dark. -
@RememberMe no call recording available natively. Basic feature of a phone not available.
And if we talk about basic features, iPhone way too fucking expensive to use basic features. -
@Floydimus fairly niche feature and there are ways to do it if you really want (also, it has questionable legality in many places), but sure. Doesn't feel like much of a reason to treat an entire ecosystem like shit though.
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@RememberMe The decision to record calls should be on the device ownrr and the owner only. It's illegal to record calls in many countries unless you're collecting evidence. When collecting evidence of blackmail, threats or abuse with call recordings or in similar situations you really shouldn't have to fight against your device vendor.
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@RememberMe And the general problem with the ecosystem is the concept that denying features from the device owner is an acceptable security measure. They're not alone with this approach, but they're major proponents of it.
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@homo-lorens again, there are ways to do it afaik, but I did agree that this is something that's missing. Still does not really feel like much of a reason to trash on an entire ecosystem.
What other basic features do they deny? I'm not an iPhone user, but I do use my iPad a lot (as a regular, non-technical user) and I haven't seen anything missing as such. Filesystem access being shittier than android and lack of a shell are probably the biggest gripe I have, but both are fairly useless for the iPhone's market.
Note that it's entirely possible that I'm just being ignorant here. -
@RememberMe if you pin point a specific part of my post and want me to make an endless list of what "other" basic features are missing so you can sit there and counter each point, well then fuck that shit, I don't care if you think my hate for them or their ecosystem is irrational. Please feel free to think that way.
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C0D4669023y@Floydimus
* overly opinionated iPhone user enters the room *
* cracks knuckles *
😮💨floydy about to get an ass kicking.
Ok, what's your gripe buddy, the iPhone can feel restrictive and that's the point of it, it's for us folk who no longer give half a shit of running terminals and rooting everything, or watching porn with downloaded mpg files, it's for low tech people who want a stable* device that can just get their shit done, with apps that can increase functionality if required. I spend enough time a day tinkering things, my phone is something I bother with anymore.
Sure there was a time I used to tinker with the iphone, jailbreak it and extend / add features to default apps with Cydia, but over the years a lot of those extras have been built in and reduce the need for any fiddling around.
Yes I can install a terminal, yes I can ssh into a server with a small ass keyboard and be a hacker
man, yes I can drag files from this device to a pc and back again, yes I can download files using a browser, what more do I need these days?
Now back to the obvious issue, call recording. That's outright illegal in some countries without informed consent, sure there's loopholes to legally record a call like putting it on speaker phone and recording it on another device 😅 yea someone didn't think that through but in general you can't hit that record button on the same device without the other party knowing about it and on a personal call, people would just hang up 👻 -
@C0D4 The day installing VLC from the official store, downloading video files from the internet and playing them in any format became "tinkering" rather than perfectly normal computer use was a dark one.
New phone after 5+ years and it's fucking awesome.
Successfully avoid American and Chinese stuff by going with a Korean brand.
And I fucking love Android. The kind of feature advancement that has happened in past so many years is outstanding.
The amount of customisation options available for the users are beyond one can utilise to fullest.
And my favourite feature is dynamic lock screen pictures every-single-time I unlock. I fucking love it. Makes me cheer up with joy. Very similar to Bing Wallpapers for Windows, but more dynamic.
Lately, I have been hearing from Apple users, that iPhone lacking a ton of basic features, apps not supporting functionalities, and we all know the overall advancement in Apple ecosystem.
While this post was more about sharing my experience with my new phonw than iPhone comparison but let's face it, the reason Apple went bonkers with the first iPhone launch was the app capabilities which led to a larger developer community building apps for iPhone while Android wasn't even born yet.
This is where Google is trying to capture the market now. More devs > more apps > more users > more devs and repeat.
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