Why are devs so egoistic?

Also, how do you deal with psychopathic ones?

Give them milk

@electrineer ty lmao you’re the best <3

Put them all on one team, remove anyone who isn’t, and let them fight it out

@TrevorTheRat hmm nice idea. I’ll ready my popcorn lol

@milk welcome to devRant :)

@Floydimus awww where’s my hug??

@milk Come to daddy

How can someone who spends his entire life doing things for others be egoistic?

People are egotistic. That's a fact

@JS96 prolly exactly he do things for other people, to feed own ego? I mean contexts can be different. But I’ve encountered heartless ones who doesn’t think about end users or other devs in the team. Those type who argues perl or C is the best and they’re the only one who knows it, and wants everybody else to rely on them. Then when everybody else can’t help, they lash out because they’re doing everything and they always choose the hard way to impress instead of being practical and choosing what’s best for the team…

@iiii yeas I agree. but sometimes some can be overbearing

Why generalize like that?
It makes no sense in my opinion.
@iiii @milk

@JS96 it's not really a generalization. It's just a fact. Animals and, incidentally, humans are egotistical in the first place.

Not being egotistical is a virtue allowed to those who are standing very firmly on the ground

@JS96 the ego thing?

Lol have you studied psychology? We all have ego. It’s our sense of self. Problem is when we get stuck in our own bubble when we don’t interact with other people, and get to immerse ourselves in bubbles other than our own.

@milk I think "having an ego" is often (incorrectly) equated to "being egocentric".

@bittersweet yup. It’s just @iiii mentioned about all of us having it and I had to explain I was referring to “egoecentric” people. And @j thinks @iiii is generalizing people, but they’re referring to diff things. Hehe

@rEaL-jAsE 💀💀 omg. I bet they’ll like that. 😎

@bittersweet I was not speaking of just having ego, but actually exercising egoism.

@milk the one above is for you as well

how do you know who the psycopathic ones even are ?

and be careful if you're experiencing enough examples to indicate there is more than just a trend but a valid stereotype likely you're interacting with social predators.

most especially the really nice always perfect acting ones.

@iiii you sound so serious all the time.

@AvatarOfKaine or am I?

miss this

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@iiii dunno maybe you're just repetitive :P

remember what was said last time ?

I think jobs that require a certain level of intelligence to solve complex problems will attract people that are semi self conscious about their IQ or their knowledge. People who are confident in their ability may appear egotistical when in fact they are experienced and wish to not dwell on less workable solutions. I don't know where it comes from, but when approaching problems I have a: lets figure this out approach. I have no idea if this puts people off or not. I at times wonder if I can solve things as well as new developers. When a new developer does something really awful in code I try to take them aside and explain the issues. I really really try not to expose problems like this when more people are involved. It is embarrassing to talk about basic coding bugs during meetings. I did that once and felt awful about it later. It was necessary to explain how I was trying to use some code in a different way. My boss turned to the guy that wrote it and asked him about it. :-<

@JS96 you have been here for a while. The whole "my opinion is the only one truth" mentality does not come back to you as egotistical? Really?

I dunno, I hate most devs I find on the internet. Whenever I meet devs on a conf or something they seem nice. Probably because in real life and away from a keyboard they know they can get their face pummeled if they start acting like autistic driven assholes.

But online they almost certainly give you the image of being egotistical pretentious pricks.

'dOnT geNerAliZe" seldom generalizing from years of viewing, reading, documenting, searching posts from millions of developers online.

If you put a group of 100 people in a room, ask them all questions, and a good majority of them come back as pretentious egotistical pricks, then you are basing yourself on data.

Much like guitar players, miserable trope. Look into any online post from something like Guitar World praising someone, out of 1500 comments 1400 are a bunch of jealous pricks saying shit like "this sucks kys". Same shit with developers, a good majority shit on everything they can.

@AleCx04 yea that’s sad but true. I wonder if that’s because of the competitive nature of the industry. Where we feel like everybody is a threat because of limited job opportunities, or a reflection of their own insecurity because most of us link our self-worth with our craft (especially when we have employee mindsets and companies treat us as disposables, and make us undergo interviews and applications barely related to the real work). Maybe companies should treat us better? Maybe we should build our own brands and focus on our strengths and value we can add?

I really don’t know how to fix the comparison or self-doubt we all have. But one thing for sure is trashing on others will not make you any better. Helping others is actually helping yourself.

@milk You can't fix a philosophical problem with mechanics. If people don't value others because they view them as accidental meatbags, no amount of reorganization will cause people to value their fellow human. Its gotten so bad that people are seen as labor units rather than beautiful creations of God. Secularism isn't healthy IMO.

People fill all the requirements of being highly valuable:

1. Unique

2. Irreplaceable

3. Rare (depending upon how you view rarity)

I think humans have more going for them that this list. But that is where philosophy starts.

@Demolishun any specific human is not unique in skills, not irreplaceable and not rare (there are 7 damn billions of damn humans)

@iiii honestly i have to disagree i deal with replacement 'humans' everyday and they don't seem anywhere near the level of interesting or useful the real ones were.

oh.. you mean at work :P

yeah at work everyones expendable.

@Demolishun it's probably because you are a good person

@PepeTheFrog aww that’s sweet. I agree 💯

@milk I do not believe I ever saw someone so into milk ....

@AvatarOfKaine well you gotta believe lol I put milk on everything and I’m kinda lactose intolerant

@milk cute. Bet whatever office you work in enjoys the end result of this lol

@milk I feel like I’m being sucked into the same exchanges across time by strange folks speaking in a language designed by former prisoners who should have stayed in prison
As much was indicated by a lone voice of torturous explanation that emerged from the darkness of the early attempts to universalize this poor substitute for life

@AvatarOfKaine I work from home! Lol but when I do go out, i just have poop spray and toiletries ready… luckily I take fiber, so poop just slides like *bloop* #lifehack lmao

@milk well
Now I shall henceforth look at milk like the I’m sharing at the knee fat of some rotund ghetto fabulous woman

@AvatarOfKaine that’s dark. I’m not from prison, I swear. Lol

@milk no somehow I do not believe you will ever be

@AvatarOfKaine I don’t think my knee has fat, it’s too bony😂 don’t call the popo on me, please 🚔🚨

@milk oops. I mean what I said last time

@AvatarOfKaine will you remember me if they take me? :(

@milk probably not lol

"How do we deal with psychopathic ones."

Fairly, even handedly, and firmly. And give them something that doesnt bore them. Boredom is torture to a psychopath. Like locking a cat in a small box with a mouse. They get bored theyll mindfuck their coworkers just to escape the boredom.

Its sorta what they do.

Also, like Whiplash, if you marry psychopathy with competence, you sometimes get people who are very good at converting employee abuse into loyalty and last minute deadlines.

This way lay the abyss.

@Wisecrack you would know about the psychopathic ones ;P

@Wisecrack I just watched Whiplash to get your point. Man, that was so anxiety-inducing.😬