I do think C# is the best language going. It's basically got everything, and VS is, weirdly for a Microsoft product, among the best IDEs. You get to thinking that it's actually harder to write unorganised code than not with it: it becomes difficult to imagine writing messy, repetitive or spaghetti code in C#.

Then you use Unity.

That was beautiful, i felt that a bit.

Anyone: “c# is cool”
Unity: *enters smashing the window* “hello maddafakka”

Feel you there, have seen no worse code than unity code… I think I have never seen worse devs or code than when I worked with unity: the most bs ever was that they’d go for cascade IFs without having ELSEs e.g:
(if(a){if(b){if(c){ /* … */}}})

Idk it feels like unity either forces you to work poorly or that the devs in that industry are straight bad (which considering the salary + crunch culture is not irrealistic…)

You haven't seen my colleagues code

@piratefox I actually love the platform, it just requires you to step back more than using it makes you want to. Why bugger around with registries when you can just make a public GameObject reference and drag the other object onto it? It gives you so many ways to rack up technical debt for a quick result, you only have to be a tiny bit lazy on a given day to cost you two later on. A powerful tool, dangerous in the wrong hands.

C# was my favorite language for a long time as well!
But then I discovered Rust and well... now I think C# isn't bad, but also isn't super great. It's fine.

@MM83 I feel like it’s not really stepping back, but rather trying to keep in mind you should neither abuse nor ignore the editor… the colleagues I mentioned before basically never EVER used the editor when possible and it resulted in code being duplicated a lot and in ~300 lines of code giga-objects when you were lucky and 800 lines of code ones by default.

@Geoxion I am diving into it these days! Any tutorial you advice?

@piratefox just read 'the book' very carefully and then go out to actually make some stuff. That worked pretty well for me.

@Geoxion thanks man ^^

Everything but access to many libs that on c++ uses :( and native execution
:(

And so far as I know ml and ai

And gaming outside unity

And a decent serialization Lib that doesn’t complain about insecurity

Or a Linux GUI

Or a web service franework that doesn’t tempt people to use node
Because let’s face it wcf sucks

And don’t get me started on Xaml

But yes then language itself is superior and a thing of beauty and vs needs ported to Linux

@piratefox look up c# primer
Oh never mind the web version I used in 2004 seems gone

You hate me dead

Yeah I like it. Sometimes think it would be better if they could draw a line and break backwards compatibility though, remove some of the old syntax that these days people probably shouldn’t be using.

@AvatarOfKaine oh nono I am starting with rust, I already have some experience with c#!

(But thank you anyway!)

@piratefox i looked briefly at rust and felt the way i did when i saw ruby. lol

You mean MiCrOsOfT jAvA?

@Ranchonyx yes ms java.

@Geoxion I actually need to write something to compile down to WASM today or tomorrow, my first go with Rust...

@MM83 good luck and be patient! It's a lot to take in and everybody struggles at first. The trick is to endure 😜

i cannot focus today with whore bitches trying to elicit annoyed responses out of me.