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@C0D4
>he has his gripes with three things so give him the thing for children
yeah sure fuck you too, I thought this place was supposed to be for venting frustrations with software development anyways -
@iiii
>what is hyperbole -
@antisocialite no one prevents anyone roasting the ranter as well 🤷♂️ it's not murica, you know
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@iiii
don't care if it's america or not
I do not appreciate being made out to be a retard because I get mad every few months about whatever shit it is that I'm working with -
@antisocialite 😅shit, you'll trigger a Python dev saying it's for kids.
No, if I was going to call you a child I'd line you up with Scratch or EmojiCode.
You can have you're gripes, we can have ours too, that's kinda how "free speech" works 😂
Plus that's the point of here, you rant about your lackings or frustrations and we all laugh with you since we've probably been in the same boat somewhere along the line. -
@iiii Error messages in C++ can easily exceed the size of your actual program just because you forgot a semicolon in some template. Then again, it's common practice as well as common sense to prohibit the use of templates except those provided by the STL.
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@Fast-Nop yes, that is true, in rare cases the errors can be very cryptic (had such myself not so long ago) but most of the times the errors are descriptive and readable.
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@Fast-Nop STL is a powerful tool. Not using it sounds crazy. It can crazy reduce the amount of code you write.
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@C0D4 Well Python is a good learning language for kids...
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@electrineer don’t be a dick c annoys me too
I don’t touch the shot unless I’m trying to figure out how something works or fix a quick issue to get something to build -
@C0D4 python sucks compared to c#! C# just doesn’t have shut written for it because it’s Microsoft’s baby
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@iiii duck you no one prevents anything in Murica except living without unnecessary stress ! Lol
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@Demolishun You may want to re-read my comment.
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@Fast-Nop I meant templates. They can reduce code significantly. I cannot imagine not using those to do specific things. But I also don't agree with writing EVERYTHING with templates.
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@Demolishun "EXCEPT those provided by the STL" means "yes, you can use the STL." That's exactly because these are the ones you need often, they are useful, and they save code.
But no, you don't want devs to create their own templates because you will not be able to maintain the resulting template hell in the future.
The difference to STL templates? Well, the S in STL gives it away: these are well-known so that the next dev you hire will be familiar with them.
Also, the STL is already debugged even for fringe cases. You can rely on that just as much as on the compiler. -
@Fast-Nop did you just say Arc?
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@C0D4 Wait….there are adults who use python?
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@boombodies Shaddup! ;-) Get off my lawn!
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@DubbaThony why can't we rant about his rant? 🤔
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I understand your frustration, it takes a lot of experience to understand how linking works and how to correctly interpret C errors.
At the same time, most of your rant is factually incorrect. You're complaining about the language, but you're not showing a lot of understanding of the language or how it functions. Which is why people get defensive about the language. From our perspective you're kinda saying "Fuck hammers, it takes 3 years to screw a screw with them, they were invented sooo long ago, and when I plug them into a charger It doesn't tell me what percentage they are at" yknow? -
@boombodies it has its uses, for me it's a short list.
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@Demolishun in just saying. If I say Js sucks or php sucks. No one will step up and much less will it invoke a legion of coders to defend those languages
literally what the fuck is the point of C++
>takes 3 years to make anything half-functional
>language was made in like fucking 1902 so it's damn near fucking impossible to make anything that works without sifting through bumfuck retarded syntax/libraries
>error messages that tell you absolutely nothing of use and are indecipherable garbage 90% of the time
fuck C, fuck it's retarded downie little brother C++, and fuck the stupid fucking boomers who say you're not a real programmer unless you force yourself to become a masochist by using either one of these stupid fucking languages
"oh but it's fast!!11!1!!" yeah but working with it sure as fuck isn't
half the fucking time if I just stop including certain headers in another file then the compiler throws like literally 400 fucking errors at me even though the thing(s) I excluded had no bearing on whatever the compiler decides it wants to loudly bitch and whine about
"oh but games were made on it!!!!111!" yeah not without fucking horrific spaghetti code and 900000 different libraries and dependancies designed just to make a single fucking window
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