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    Congratulations, you got out of there! I'm so happy for you.
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    @electrineer yea good and bad,

    good : Finally I am free,
    Bad; not getting paid.
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    I have started to feel like clean code, domain boundaries, design principles, automation, testing and peer reviews are fake.

    I can't actually believe anyone is doing them anymore. They don't seem hard, but everywhere I go people argue. I am even beginning to believe that this stuff is not correct anymore because of the amount of push back in every company I have worked at.

    Maybe the lesson is don't do anything that makes waves, just follow along whether it seems shit or not.
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    End of year / beginning of new year is good for finding new job.
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    @Crost but did you see the rest of my posts yet? If you go through all you will understand why I am made about this guy. Tell me whether it is acceptable.
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    @johnmelodyme I read them. To me it is not acceptable. The code is shit, your boss is shit.

    But I have never worked anywhere that was not shit. I don't believe in trying anymore as the best case you silently make things better but no-one notices so your boss gets the benefits, or people push back and stuff like this happens. It is better to let things be shit.
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    @Crost but in my case I can't tolerate because code like underscore , is truly unacceptable , and I have to redo everything .
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    @Crost ha. I had the same feeling at my first company. They were doing most stuff wrong and were clearly following anti patterns. The kind of code that you wouldn't write as your first draft after GoF book came out. That code was in production.

    I realized that the reality is most people are there for the buck and the perks. Nothing wrong with it but if you want clean code you have to move to a place where it matters. It could be within the company in the core teams which decide/provide the tools, frameworks, guidelines or it could be in a company which provides the tools to your company.

    So while clean code principles are valid, you are more likely to encounter violations that rely on manpower than software design. But the reason those places can. function with any sanity is because they rely on the guarantees provided by software that employs clean code.
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    Been reading back your rants with open mouth. Unreal.

    On the flip side : it won't be hard to find a better place to work 😅
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    @johnmelodyme you're situation is difficult right now. You rightfully believe that you are wronged. You deserve better.

    But trust me, these people are not worth your mental stress. You must resist the urge to expend mental effort on them via expressions of anger and disgust. You are only hurting yourself. You need to compartmentalize and push yourself to find a job.

    That said, everyone has their own process so I'm apologize in advance if I'm overreaching here.
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    @anux 🥲 thanks for understanding man, times are tough.
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    Sorry to hear that, but also sounds like good riddance. Hope you find a new one soon!
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    Glad you are out of that toxic place.

    Matter of days before you will be hired by a better employer.
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    You’ve been communicating quite well with us though!

    But well.. good riddance.
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    @-red unfortunately my company version of communication they wanted is “speaking in more Chinese way “ like what am I supposed to do ? Speaking a broken English and salute mao ze dong?

    I am Chinese . They told me I wasn’t Chinese enough . Wtf does that even mean? (We are in Malaysia , but these mother fuckers behaving like this is China)

    I got once told that I am betraying my ancestors for not speaking Chinese. Like bitch, my ancestors were from Mongolia , in context I should be speaking my mother Tongue to you instead.
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    @-red I will read about this what I experienced entire so roughly those who read my rant will get a bigger picture of wtf happened and learn from it that "this kind of people do exist"
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    It's good to leave these racist people. Do they only hire chinese people then? I presume? There were a lot of chinese descendants here in Pontianak, Indonesia, but we all call ourselves Indonesian, not Chinese!

    Do they think PRC would accept them with open hands if they go back?
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    @daniel-wu so you are Indonesian? Oh hello neighbor! I lived in Malaysia, and constantly the racism shit happened all the time.
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