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Women make up 50% of the population in islamic countries and will have to pick up the fight. If they don't, nobody else will - expecting men to risk their lives and fight for losing privileges would be unrealistic.
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@Fast-Nop But the blokes control every aspect of society and have all the machine guns... Fortunately, it won't be men vs women, it'll be religionists vs normal Iranians.
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@spongegeoff It won't become a society of equalisation unless women take part of the risk. Staying on the sideline and then expecting equalisation as gift won't work.
Afghanistan provides a cautionary tale: during two decades of Western presence, a huge number of women could have entered the armed forces to defend their freedom, but there was only very little motivation. Picking up e.g. women's studies instead of a gun also turned out to be a strategy with short shelf life. -
They are under illusion that US will be there forever. What did the women/non Taliban people do during the two decades of US rule? Instead of learning how to handle a gun or sub machine gun, or armed combat, or how to make bomb to blow up those Taliban; they picked normal career such as architect, engineer, programmer, chef, lawyer, etc.
What are lawyers useful for when your opponents are terrorists?!! What is the result? As we all now, the non Taliban government fall in a matter of hours as soon as US left. Not days. Hours. -
NoMad136652yPolitics are banned in DevRant.
But don't worry. Some of us have our activism elsewhere. Not everyone is a wuss or a moron. -
This has repeatedly been in the headline news in the western media. Iran is already one of the most sanctioned countries.
The west even trades heavily with a country that is actively committing a genocide. It's not fair, but it's not easy to solve from outside without a third world war. And a world war would risk the fairness everywhere. -
NoMad136652y@electrineer I'd argue hashtag activism works. Because your political analysts wake up every morning and read the trending topics, including what has been trending as a hashtag. And that implies what people care about, which in a democratic country is what the leaders should care about. Leading to literal political discussions, between presidents.
And that is the equivalent of "bring your parents to school with you tomorrow" for a government. -
@joewilliams007 If that were relevant, then gorillas would threaten humans to go extinct instead of the other way around. You don't need much strength to pull the trigger of a gun.
Also, female volunteer soldiers in Ukraine show what women can do even in a full-blown war - if they actually want. -
@joewilliams007 What's up with your "alone" trope? Calling 50% of the population "alone" is outright ridiculous.
Also, the women soldiers in Ukraine are perfectly able to deal with guns. They kick ass. That's how it looks like when women defend freedom that they do care about.
Not picking up anything is how it looks like when someone simply doesn't care. -
So Iran will be the next country invaded by one of the great imperiums to bring the people "freedom" and "democracy"?
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@Oktokolo Nope. Not only that the Western track record of nation building is abysmal (Iraq, Afghanistan), but the misery in Iran is already the result of the US mixing in, starting with the CIA coup in 1953, aiming at the oil.
What does have odds of success, and what seems to be happening, is seeking alliances e.g. with regard to the bad overall economic situation that is not only due to the sanctions, but also government corruption and mismanagement.
Because, let's face it, while shit is undoubtedly bad for Iranian women, it's not like it's heaven for the other half of the population, either. -
sariel84472y@joewilliams007 I have never seen a man push a baby out of his urethra.
Women are far stronger than you give them credit for.
A woman crawled 5 miles from a bear attack to seek medical attention.
It's almost like generalizations that present a commentary against a particular subset of the population is damaging to a narrative of equity.
Women aren't weaker.
You are. -
@sariel Physically, women are not as strong, that's simple biology with much less testo. It's just that this isn't even relevant.
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sariel84472y@Fast-Nop I agree. This is not relevant.
Strength in numbers and strength in strategy.
Go get em!
✊ آزادی برای ایران 🇮🇷 -
@Wizard1997 Actually, at the current state of the states and the military industrial complex... Yes, i can imagine the US government sending armed guerilla forces to Boston to surround Harvard and MIT and start killing students.
Sure, they would do so as a false flag operation to make it look like someone else did it. But if they would expect that benefiting them somehow, they would definitely do it one way or the other. There is no remorse, no conscience, not even the lowest amount of ethics in the opaque "public" and private organisations constituting the great imperium's government. -
I'm a muslim man but hijab really shouldn't be forced like that. My condolences to all those who died.
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@Midnight-shcode Because first, most oil-exporting countries as islamic, and the women's situation is similar wherever Islam is dominant.
Second, the West has deliberately cut itself off from another major oil supplier, that being Russia.
Third, Europe is importing unskilled muslim labour en masse, and the headscarf is touted as symbol of female autonomy over here. You can't make that shit up. -
hjk10156962yWith all due respect this is in clear violation of DevRants policy. Not going to participate in this; suggest others do the same.
There is shit that is far more horrendous in this world, but it stays off this platform. -
Yeah ! Stop abusing Iranian women! There are tons of American women who will accept cash for it over here !
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Also. I don't mean to criticize but that image is somewhat.. humorous
Maybe choose one a bit less Toony ?
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@Fast-Nop my question was sarcastic and rhetorical, but thanks for summing it up nicely
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I wonder how are things going for this brave lady currently. I just came to say here that there was an interview of an Iranian person in Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend podcast.
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