no-code developers will work at no-money jobs

Good one, have my upvote.

While the trend goes towards no-money jobs in general... no-code development still is skilled labor. You still need to know what to model and how to do it right. The hard part of development isn't writing the code.

@Oktokolo absolutely.

Does no-code devs exist in any significant amount? Devs who never code? I haven't heard of such a thing except maybe if you only set up simple wix/shopify sites for local businesses.

I figure most no-code solutions are used as parts by devs who DO code most of the time

@Oktokolo there is no such thing as unskilled labour

@Oktokolo Skilled labor is a misleading word. Skill improves the efficiency and reliability of any worker substantially. The fields we call skilled are the ones where you need some prior training even to get started. I don't think no-code is like that. There are things newbies can't do, but the whole point is that the vast majority of tasks can be executed without any special knowledge.

There's no benefit to a no-code tool over a yes-code tool if it requires training to get started.

@kiki There also is no such thing as a no-code developer. But if there where, that devs would still need to be able to translate whatever is to become software into the building blocks of the no-code framework of choice. We all know that frameworks never have every building block needed - so making new building blocks would probably also be something a no-code dev would have to be able to do (probably by writing code).

There will be massive hordes of no-code users though - non-devs who do the same as the current code monkeys: replace parameters and content in templates (currently code, then graphically abstracted building blocks). We could call them no-code monkeys.

@lorentz Yes, skilled labor is a fuzzy term. I found no better word for jobs that require shitloads of experience and/or knowledge - no matter whether formally trained or just worked their way "up".

Code monkey in generall is considered unskilled. Developer is considered skilled. Amazon delivery driver is considered unskilled (even though you need a driver's license). Mason is considered skilled (by me at least).

@Oktokolo Your last post about "no-code monkeys" replacing stuff in templates make me realise (contrary to my last post) I probably do know of a few of those positions.

There's people who work with Sharepoint workflows. Or SalesForce configuration. I think they do all their work in a GUI.

At my company in Sweden these roles are called something like (translated) "Application maintainer".

Not a lot of them, perhaps there's one guy who works with stuff like setting up sales offers, campaigns, and configures some workflows in a handful of sales CMS systems - and perhaps some of that is no-code stuff like setting up a chat bot for the customer site.