I heard in Switzerland Zürich the salary of a beginner junior dev is not below 100k. Is this true?

I don't know numbers but they are huge. But have a look on what a flat costs there. Or a beer. Everything is absurdly expensive so it does not feel like more. Except you live abroad (like in italy or germany) and commute every day. Working remote in switzerland is a wet dream, but they don't allow it usually. Tax reasons again. I recently talked to a guy who had to let go a girl who had a contract there but lived in hungary and only appeared once a week in the office. You just have to live there.

I don't think the vast majority of junior devs in Zürich makes more than 100'000 CHF a year. There are some that make more.

(I live in Switzerland and not to far from Zürich, but i don't work there).

Pretty much the same story compared to silicon valley. Huge salary huge expenses.

Maybe. But only from an western/EU countries point of view. Ratio between costs and salary maybe somewhat the same in western EU and switzerland, but is way worse in non EU eastern european countries for example. It's cheaper there, sure, but not so much cheaper as salaries are lower. So I 100% understand b2planes hatred.

@horus Lol what hatred im trying to see if i should move out of my shithole country and work in Switzerland now that i have a degree

@galena how huge is huge? Expenses depend on how you spend your lifestyle. I am here to invest my money and not spend it on bullshit events that generate me happiness. I dont want to be happy i want to have a lot of money

@b2plane Don't, we turn slowly but surely into Sodom. Well, i guess it is the same everywhere, so it doesn't really matter.

Judging from the recruiter spam it's more like 70k Euro for a relatively junior position, but with very high expenses (esp. rent, groceries - easily 2x compared to Germany) and generally you're required to be on-site. You'll likely have better saving rate with 45k-50k in Germany. Also your stay in Switzerland pretty much depends on the employment, so the company has a lot of leverage.

@saucyatom what are my savings in Switzerland

@b2plane Probably going to your landlord! But really: I don't have firsthand experience working there, but must recommend you to research on living expenses & taxation, working conditions & labor laws, currency risk, etc.

Don't be fooled by a high salary before expenses without realizing that you need 3000€/month* net for basic living.

* random figure pulled out of my ass

@saucyatom then what about moving to dubai and working there in some tech company? Dubai has 0% tax and they are rich as shit. They can pay me a lot and as long as i keep my expenses low i could live great?

@b2plane If you ask me personally, differences in culture (and possibly working conditions) are not worth it, no matter how much they can pay.