Who needs Stack Overflow when you’ve got chatGPT?

I don't know, the info in SO is still more reliable...

Who needs a brain, when you have an incredibly inaccurate chatGPT, oh wait most people these days.

Chatgpt needs it

You don’t get the pompous condescending tone with chatGPT though. Plus chatGPT gives you an explanation, great for learning.

@helloworld except when is wrong...and when you r still learning that doesn't help you much

It can even give you a plan and all the steps to become a billionaire... Giving financial advice and everything.

Wonderful investment partner :D

Here is the official answer of ChatGPT: I can certainly provide you with general information and advice on financial planning topics such as budgeting, investing, saving for retirement, and tax planning.

As long as bing chat gives you the link to SO where it found the information, it's fine to use it.

Who needs Stack Overflow when you’ve got @chatGPT?

@electrineer

As an AI language model, I am constantly learning and improving my knowledge base. However, there are some things that are beyond my capabilities, especially when it comes to specific programming languages and technical issues. While I can provide general guidance and suggestions, I cannot replace the expertise and experience of human programmers.

Stack Overflow is a valuable resource for programmers to find specific solutions to technical issues and receive advice from experienced developers. While @chatGPT can provide initial guidance and general information, it is always important to seek the advice of experts in the field for more complex issues. So, I would say that Stack Overflow and @chatGPT can complement each other in helping programmers find the information they need to solve their problems.

@We3D But SO gives so many shit and long winded answers, at least with chatgpt if you correctly word the question you can often be on the right path with the answer even if it’s not 100%, it will probably steer you on the right direction.

@helloworld sounds like you got SO and chatgpt mixed up

@helloworld lets say it this way : chatGPT is for advanced users and SO is more beginners friendly. even that you get detailed answers from the 1st, if it gets the wrong path and you r clueless about that you can waste much more time figuring out why it does not work like it said it will

@We3D I was just making an observation based on my own experience with both. Recently, I have been stuck and turned to chatgpt to unstick me. Which it did.

@helloworld I get your POV, but you can't just throw SO out of the picture and I'm not saying chatGPT is completely useless, but for many problems it's still better to look in SO than blindly thrust the bot

@We3D Yesterday I needed some random regex to replace stuff in Notepad++

Instead of looking all over the place on SO or other sources, the bot gave me one that worked based on some small sample data.

If this can be useful in the same way an IDE makes writing code faster (Like automatic brackets and all those bells), well that wouldn't be a bad think I guess.

@Grumm for small things it's perfect and fast. no argue with that. but you can't use it as a teacher. also if you formulate your question good google / duckduckgo will show you the relevant threads in SO, so no need to looking all over the place. chatGPT is just in too early stage to become SO killer. that's my 2 bits about it anyway ;)

I think the quality of the chatgpt answers go down the more experience you acquire.

@Demolishun And it go down very fast !!

As stated by @We3D, I don't use to teach or to get full functions or code.

It can get ugly very fast and the chat sometimes will not change the wrong stuff.

Still I wonder how the AI of Microsoft will behave. It is fun, but to actually use it in production... No, give me a competent colleague in that case.

Also the bot himself told you it does not feel confident enough to kill SO ( they are still deciding who to kill first and who to leave as last ;} )

ChatGPT needs stackoverflow, thus need humans. If you think Chatgpt writes those codes…

You need training data from stackoverflow.

And if I remember it right, ChatGPT uses training data that is at least a year old or older so for any more recent development it will not yet have any answers, the same if it was not trained on data containing an answer.

Yes for many simple things it will be easier BUT would you trust that regex if you could not test it?

Sure, you should probably not trust SO unless you could test it but if its a very upvoted answer its probably going to be correct. For all the toxicity it does kill blatantly wrong answers so they will not get heavily upvoted.

@Voxera That is why it is still important to know what you are working with and of knowledge and expertise in the job you do.

Then ChatGPT becomes a simple tool to get things done faster. That regex was correct (tested before and basic knowledge of how a regex works.)

I see it like a woodworker who uses a handsaw or one who uses a power tool. The last one will do his job as good as the first one, just faster. (Unless he is the sunday-dad trying to fix stuff)

@Grumm yes, for that chatGPT is probably going to revolutionize things, but especially if its abit more complex, the added comments on SO can be quite helpful to highlight edge cases and similar.

And especially once you are more experienced, to be able to lookup the people answering and se other things they have written can help identify good sources from bad.

ChatGPT will hide that as far as I can see and that would at least make me more skeptical

Anyone that wants a reliable answer that a human mind came up with and not just a random text blob that was pulled from the CMB.

I think that ai will radically change the industry over time and programmers should embrace it. I have worked through industries that have now ceased to exist due to advancements in tech. Dis and ignore at your peril. The future landscape will be totally different in another decade.

@cuddlyogre Deep Blue V Kasparov springs to mind. I think you may need to relook at your short sighted objection, chatgpt is the start and the journey will be rapid and remarkable.

@helloworld I'm not comfortable with big tech owning both my product and my ability to think.

@helloworld Yes, it will get better at finding existing answers but that will be much harder than for chess since for chess you have a clearly defined goal/winning condition.

For answering a more open question, there exist no real way to validate if the answer is correct except by human validation and that will be a bottleneck.

Thats probably why they want the free version, so that many with real knowledge test it and help refine it, but its still many times more complex.

And therein lies some danger, when the answer feels good and the one asking cannot personally validate they may end up with bad advice.

On SO at least, bad answers will get criticized. Here you so far only get the answer without any other eyes on it, and you cannot verify through the sources if you believe they are good.

So I think we will see a lot of problems along the way.

@Voxera I agree to a point, but with writing code, I see it as achievable, but as we know writing code is not just the code it is about clearly defining the problem. Experienced coders understand that the solution lies in breaking down the problem. AI can certainly help generate the solution once the exact specifics are defined (by a human) as always the phrase shit in, shit out comes to mind.

@helloworld So true. :)