Use Linux desktop they said.
It'll be fun they said.
So much to configure.
Such fun.

18 hours later and hibernation, Bluetooth, Sound and Nvidia Optimus still not working after countless modprobes and config changes.

Hello again, Windows. You make me feel safe.

I'll just stick to Linux on servers and nothing more.

Saying Linux is hard to configure without specifying a distro is like saying cars are hard when you've only used a stick shift.

@chadd17 Didn't specify more since it's been the same on all I've tried.

Ubuntu (Xfce, KDE, Gnome)
Linux Mint
Fedora
Opensuse

The only one that came kinda close to being nice is Opensuse. :)

This is like, you know, your opinion, man. I never had a problem with Linux, never had to do a single modprobe. With the lack of reasoning and information I might assume you are impatient and well trained Windows user, just as Uncle Bill want you to be. I personally would never trade my freedom for not consensual sexual intercourse with Microsoft.

@mutation Welcome back to the "Dark Side" and welcome to devRant! 😃

...mint is literally just next next next install buddy

nvidia optimus is a pain on any OS, it is one of the most common causes for failed windows 10 upgrades as well.

When it comes to laptops: Don't install an OS that isn't supported by the manufacturer unless you know what the f--k you are doing, it almost never goes well.

I would love to love Linux but it just won't let me. :)

@RazorSh4rk The install isn't the issue, it all instals. It's when trying to use the computer my issues come.

@kpenc I've tried to use Linux perhaps 20 times over a course of 10 years. Sometimes for a couple of months, sometimes less.

Everytime I spend more time configuring and trying to make stuff work than actually using the computer.

Glad it works well for you though. :)

"Windows makes you feel safe"? *Ahem Ahem*
I believe you meant convenient or comfortable?

Let me explain you why.
Linux = Porsche Carrera GT, Koenigsegg, F1 cars, etc. (Many distributions 😀
Damn difficult to get a handle on the stick and accelerator in the start, you have the power and you would start wisely until your muscle memory and conscious kicks in making you a skilled GT driver. Or you might crash it?

Windows = any random Honda car?
Easy to drive as the speed limit is safely under control and drive by with convenience, unless you full throttle ofcourse (overclock the fuck out of it?)

Oh hey btw, Linux is also a Rolls Royce, you customise it as per your will you know ;)

@kabhishek I'm suing for copyright infringement on the car metaphor

@chadd17 hahaha, you gave an idea and I took it to another level Mr. Winklevoss 😂😀
Good one btw

@kabhishek I prefer to sit safely in my Volvo. ;)

@mutation ++ for not getting annoyed at the very present linux fandom here
I getcha. If it does what you want, it's good.

@mutation sure, convenience is good enough as long as it gets work done without having productive hours wasted.

However, Tesla model 3 is the current and the next big thing and can be kept in mind, for performance and safety fanatics...

I used to hate Linux. Simply because I thought Linux was not user friendly.

And then I had to learn php and write a php application. Used Windows. Had to use xamp because that's what I was told to use. Was such a pain. Installed elementaryOS. Never went back. Almost was so simple!

Also if you want everything configured, use semicode OS :)

Huh. Apparently I can now configure my avatar. Good things ahead!

@drGreat5 I don't hate Linux. I just hate the hoops it makes me go through to get a good user experience. :)

@mutation The more ++ you get, the more options open. If you check on the avatar editor you'll see how many you need. 🙂

@mutation "Jump through", not walk through. Apparently I can't edit my posts. I'll just talk to myself instead.

@Qaldim Thanks for getting me started! :D

@mutation I also had troubles with hibernation. What fixed it for me was to do a BIOS update,which was only possible to do from a Windows installation, thanks Lenovo... I however haven't managed to get the Nvidia GPU to work as it should, but in the meantime I just disabled it, as I'm not gaming or do graphics heavy work or something on my dev laptop. Poor i7 has to do all the work.

@chadd17 what's hard about driving shift stick? It's awesome! Okay I'll admit, Switzerland is a strange nation, over here more people decide to get stick shift than automatic. Additionally if you decide ti do the driving school with an automatic, that get's maked on your driver licence, so you're only allowed to drive automatic cars. Kind of an "Idiot" stamp on the driver licence.

What the actual fuck are y’all running this stuff on. I’ve gotten 5 distros to run flawlessly across 3 laptops and 2 desktops and countless VM’s with everything from ddr1 ram and a processor in the MHz to i7’s and 32gb ddr4. Once I had to find a WiFi driver. Like wtf

Nice job triggering linux users! 😈

@jeeper lenovo thinkpad with a Nvidia GPU and a i7 also having a "gpu" in there. Shit's crazy

Hey I know you, you are me before I feel in love with elementaryOS.

Linux is hard, but it is only as hard you want it to be.

The take away from @drGreat5 's comment should have been elementrayOS.

It is very straight forward. To nullify your fears, if any, try looking at "things to do after installing xyz linux" on Google. That opens you up to a concise configuration and installation process. This is enough to instill confidence in new users.

In case you are using elementary OS, check out my installation script. I defaulted to elementary OS from deepin after it became dull for me.

https://gist.github.com/bhediathewo...

Mint is kinda clone of Windows. you can be very familiar with. i remember last time i fucked up my linux install was 3 years ago. Linux is awesome, i enjoy the horizons it opens. i cant use Windows more than two hours without crushing

I find fault in the car analogy because it's associating Linux with more powerful cars with harder yet more flexible driving methods/transmissions, but it's conveniently leaving out that those cars are expensive as fuck to own and maintain, and very few people in the world are in a position to do it - I'll leave it to the reader to convert this fact back to OS terms 😁

I slap the lid shut on my debian laptop nearly every evening (hibernate), wakes up ready to rock every time I open and hit the power button! Never had a single issue with anything, BT headset works perfectly every time etc.

Any desktop: Windows, Mac, or Linux, takes me weeks and months to get working the way I want it. There is no such thing as a simple desktop switch, imo.

Try Manjaro. It is meant tk be Windows like experience on Linux. Nvidia drivers preinstalled and stuff. Oh, and it is based om Arch, so AUR and allmighty Arch Wiki is available to you.

I have no problem with switching desktop environments and design metaphors. The problem I have is the hardware and driver side where it for 10 years has never been smooth for me in Linux. It's always some config or setting that needs to be adapted and adjusted and it never works as well as in Windows. I spend more time Googling how to keep my computer functioning properly than doing actual work. In Windows and MacOS I can focus on the task at hand instead of the operating system. I'm not doing bare metal coding so I don't really need to know bootloader config just to start the OS.

This is my experience. If yours are the opposite, great. :)

Just to finish off, I leave this image here. ;)

@bhedia love it. Would you mind though to add "more" comments saying what it's actually for, like `# Installing Redshift` what does "Redshift" do? It seams something like "f.lux", but I had to google it (which is fine by me, but then again I'm a lazy ass, and my lazy ass likes things as simple as possible :P)

@jeeper Yup same! Although getting the persistent as a MOTHERFUCKER windows bootloader removed and grub installed, it usually takes me a seven or so step installer and it works without any issues.

Oh and look! I'm not trying to convert OP to linux!

@dontbeevil What I also don't like is someone talking about a group of users like they're all the same.

Give Manjaro a try.

It's got a good driver detector and works when others fail.

@dontbeevil Oh I know but it seemed like you were talking about all linux users and they're deffo not all like that :)

@mutation ubuntu works out of the box... Wtf?

Seem like some people already said ot. But about Optimus, Manjaro installer will install bumblebee correctly (or prime if you choose open driver). So you shouldn't have any kind of problem. If one day you want to try again ^^ Working​ on Windows can be really horrible, I hope you have Linux container installed at least.

@dontbeevil never said it was mandatory :p but if Windows has integrated Linux inside for the dev, there is probably a reason though. Well you can say Wine too, even if it seems to be more for a classic user (is that possible to us Visual Studio?). But Wine is shit if you compare it to the Linux integration on Window (could be nice to have X or Wayland though).

Never had any hardware problems on my manjaro xfce.
Had plenty of software configurations though.