And this shit is supposed to inspire people into coding? Dear God!

This hurts me in my brain.

While the code might not be the best, I actually think this is a great effort and something that is really needed.

this whole thing looks like a randomized shitpost

also whys the project manager signed

@dfox I would REALLY like to see where the $200M goes. In my opinion it's still pretty less, but quite honestly, I feel like she's just trying to "bring the liberal perspective" after all the NFL, N Korea shit show in the past few days. If it's going to go to DeVos and end up in some school built by Ken Ham, I think it's better to just flush the money down the drain. Anyways, I guess we'll know it when we see it.

@aswinramakrish sure, anything is possible, but like I said, I think it’s important and even just the mentioning of it is important.

What’s preferable? Not doing anything? I prefer to see emphasis given to teaching minorities and women how to code even if there are political motivations behind it. Every action by every president ever has had at least some political motivations behind it.

@dfox I agree. And we're guilty of being too critical just because it's coming from Trump. I definitely agree. My wife is a special ed teacher (who used to be a firmware developer at Seagate) and she teaches coding to kids every week. More people will actually learn coding because of people like my wife (who gave up a big chunk of salary for passion) instead of somebody from Trump family pretending to care about coding in my opinion (which is only a topic of discussion for a day for them and one which draws more criticism than people) IMO. Her post seems like a call for attention (that the WH is "trying" to do something) rather than a call to action to me.

@aswinramakrish I think time will tell. Personally I hope it’s an actual initiative that has long-term focus.

I don’t really care who proposed it to be honest. I just believe it needs to be proposed and it’s an important thing to focus on. I applaud what your wife does but I think we need more emphasis on doing just that and more focus on coding in schools.

I try to view politics on an action basis and not by the politician who is proposing the policy. I’d be a complete hypocrite if I’ve said many times on devRant that I hope an initiative exactly like this one gets some love, and then once it seems like it might, I discount it merely by who is proposing it.

Thank you for this Ivanka, it's not like coding is free on the internet for everybody to learn

@jsframework9000 I think the simple fact is that most underprivileged people and people living in poverty can’t and won’t just decide to go on the internet one day and start coding.

Different people also learn very definitely and not everyone can learn simply from online tutorials and guides alone.

This is something we’ve wanted to try to help with in the future at devRant (initiatives to help educate less fortunate people in coding) but right now we don’t have the resources unfortunately.

@dfox It would make sense for people who love coding (like you) to want to teach others to code but these people just do it because it's trendy. Then again, they are wealthy enough to help so I can't complain.

@dfox I think there needs to be centers that provide coding bootcamps for free or really inexpensively in impoverished neighborhoods (preferably run by the government). They could use this money to setup something like this. Galvanize won't setup shop in Bronx, but the government can.

@aswinramakrish that would be great. I don’t know exactly how you implement it but in those areas it would definitely be beneficial. I do think in some way it needs to be integrated into school curriculum though, maybe.

@jsframework9000 I’d love to teach others and especially those in need who can benefit the most by it but at this point I don’t really have the time and the programs that do stuff like this are very, very limited. I’ve looked into it and some of my co-workers have volunteered at schools but the programs available there were disconnected from actual work and the teachers teaching those programs didn’t know how to properly utilize my colleagues.

That’s why I think this needs to be a wider effort where coding classes and instruction isn’t optional - it’s required.

Also, this might sound ridiculous - but if anyone wants to feel free to make a GitHub issue in our issue tracker about possible programs/initiatives devRant can have involvement in or found. We’ve had some really good discussion in those issues lately and I think this would be an awesome topic if anyone is interested.

Dat identifier convention tho

The thing is good code is very readable to us but incredibly cryptic to the untrained eye.

For instance, in JS areow functions are good practice but foo('value', () => { return 'Hi'})
make apsolutly NOOoo sense for must people.
Or even something simpler:

console.log("Hello, World")

one must know what objects, functions, strings, parameters, and member are for this to make any sense what so ever.

Why three === instead of two == ?

@freeme In JS, === compares type in addition to equality (without any conversation). 3 == "3" is true. 3 === "3" is false.

Let's not do politics, especially politics which involve code. It gives me a stomach ache and a migraine

@AlgoRythm although we have a no politics rule, the rule specifically states politics that are directly related to dev/tech are acceptable.

Edit: not encouraged, but I think we have to allow dev related political things since some of the issues are important to developers specifically, and those are the only times we allow it.

@dfox Just expressing my frustration. Seeing a Trump family member tweet code?

*Shudders*

Unsettling to say the least