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Ahh.. but of course, christians always find excuses for their bible contents. And they often tell us to look at context too, but they themselves can't look at context.
These writings were made in the time where slavery was totally OK and humans were often treated as property. Also parents sent their underage daughter to old men for money, even now, in some backwater countries. Are you really going to insist that all bible translators are so dumb, they mistranslated simple workers as slaves? What a joke.
The bible writings are as literal and as correct as they can be. Jehova made rules for his followers, about slavery, underage sex trafficking, and murder of non followers. Trying to defend it doesn't make you look good. -
The bible is a collection of several different authors, different points in time, wrong -/ lost translations.
But for starters:
Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy form the torah.
The four gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John are usually divided into the synoptic gospels vs the gospel of John:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Could go on, but point is: The bible is a collection of various fictional and non fictional texts.
Trying to point out logical flaws without taking that in account is... Dumb.
I'd recommend taking a scientific approach to the bible, its quite interesting. Scientific, not religious.
Other fun facts:
E.g. the book of salomon is literal porn.
If you ever need to write a poem for someone special or ideas for sexting, I'd recommend reading it. ;)
The gospel of John is by the way commonly used for cults like Jehovas witness - reason why I mentioned the synoptic gospels. -
Point 6 is valid on how to eradicate nations.
Anyways that’s history of civilization, if you deny history, eventually history would become reality.
Moreover I think we are slowly in a process to go back to those days. You might not see it but if you look closely and live long enough you would see a pattern. Maybe not so brutal right now like described above but we are slowly getting there. -
it's been done to completeness already. no need for you to do your own.
https://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ -
@Taqsblaz3 That the point of the bible. Interpret everything at will!
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@galena nah. the point of the bible (and every other religious book) is to have some validation to oppress your own people and slaughter others.
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@daniel-wu The most popular bible translations today are from medieval England, because the people who trust a several thousand years old book without proof don't tend to associate progress with improvement. As such, there are a lot of accidental mistranslations and even more intentional ones, because the translators had an agenda too and the original Hebrew text often includes what the medieval lordship would consider distasteful content or at odds with their social order.
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@IntrusionCM non-fictional texts in bible? Are you sure?
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@iiii it would take a very very long explanation, but yes.
Certain parts of the bible are at least partially historical accurate.
Adding partial here because "historical accurate" is already a phrase that needs a lot of explaining.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Is I think worth a read. Though that only focuses on the Apostles.
Regarding historical accurate:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
I could now make up a lot of examples. But in short: A lot of our historical knowledge needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
While the bible contains a lot of fiction, part of its descriptions regarding e.g. politics, society, economy, culture definitely fit what can be proven by e.g. archeological findings.
Its easy to dismiss the bible as fictional hogwash, but truth be told: A lot of our historical knowledge was passed exactly like the bible: Orally passed over hundreds of year. Some point in time written down. Translated. Copied. Translated. Copied. And so on.
Historical accurate is a very fine line between fiction and non fiction.
We can not look back in time so we have to simply assume that that what was passend down and matches other findings is "probably and most likely true".
Did the Roman empire exist? Yes.
Is every story about the Roman empire that was passed down true down to the smallest fact? Hell no.
Note: The bible is largely a fictional mythological work. I'm not denying that. -
@IntrusionCM overall it just sounds like fiction historical novel in which some historical facts or quazi-facts are present, but that does not mean that anything in it is non-fiction. Everything could be warped only resembling facts but not being facts
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@lorentz By medieval, did you mean King James Version? NIV and NET versions who are pretty recent still translate those words as slaves though?
Also it makes total sense for an ancient god believed by people who lived on 1,000 B.C. to allow slavery. Religions usually get to stay in power thanks to the ruler and the powerful people / the nobles / the land lords. They definitely wanted to have to slaves.
Oh do I need to mention that these books were most definitely composed / written under their's order?
Bible verses.
Sorted from "wtf" to progressively more disturbing.
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1️⃣ One of many contradictions
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John 4:12
"No one has seen the face of God."
Genesis 32:31
"I have seen the face of God..."
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2️⃣ All-Knowing God, regrets creating you
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Genesis 6:6
"And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart."
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3️⃣ Says to kill all gay people
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Leviticus 20:13
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, they have committed an abomination; the two of them shall be put to death; their bloodguilt is upon them."
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4️⃣ Approval of sex trafficking
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Exodus 21:7
"If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed."
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5️⃣ Says its ok to own slaves
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Exodus 21:20-21
"Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property."
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6️⃣ Says its ok to kill children
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Psalms 137:9
"Blessed the one who seizes your children and smashes them against the rock: the children represent the future generations, and so must be destroyed if the enemy is truly to be eradicated."
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7️⃣ Says a raped woman must marry her rapist
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Deuteronomy 22:28–29
"If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days."
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8️⃣ Says incest is ok
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Genesis 19:32-36
"Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father. That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up. The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up. So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father."
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