Hey, my team is attending a hackathon kind of thing tonight. Can you recommend us some interesting php+js stacks?

And yes even tho i jack off to java code, i can write other stuff

Hey, I don’t need to know what you do with a large piece of paper with java code printed out😏

It depends your goals with the stack.

Performance? Phalcon as api and js, well.. Vue seems to be lightweight compared to react and angular. Not sure about meteor.
Honestly, I'm not too well versed on js frameworks

Convenience? Laravel & vue

@Artemix what's so hard about laravel? :p

And yeah, once you get the hang and mindset of it.. :)

First time I see people talking about Phalcon here, about time!

@Artemix phalcon seems nice, ill make sure to recommend it to the backend guys

@lotd yeah, theres no fucking way im ever touching angular again

@Artemix yeah, it's quite heavy and has a lot of overload, I agree.

For logic flow, yes. Yes you can.
Understanding how the "magic" calls gets passed around and the container being really center piece is quite mind-boggling at first though.

I agree on part, when it comes to obscure callbacks though..
Which is part why I almost always opt for Observer classes in contrast to callbacks on models.events

The docs focus on outlining how to quickly get stuff working, not how it actually works.
Which I think it does a good job at..

For phalcon on convenience, yeah.
But not to the same degree, takes quite a bit more effort to get working.

Js: React + React router + MobX/Redux

@Froot aaaand this one goes straight into the trash

@BindView What? Why?

@Froot using react is about as fun as using sandpaper to jack off

Slimframework + Angular4

@BindView Ah ok. Well you asked for interesting js stacks and I have a valid answer. Do with it what you will 😄

Still curious tho. What do you prefer then?

@BindView I was kidding about the paper before but seriously sand paper?

I’m loving how everyone’s shoving large frameworks down in here, yet it’s a hackathon, you literally mash a bunch of code together and make it do something no?

Why over complicate it by dragging in a learning curve for unfamiliar stacks?

Lumen + Vue

@rc5-asdf @mrlinnth I fail to understand how Vue is any less complicated than react. If anything id say it's the other way around.

Btw you can achieve amazing development speed in react if you ignore stuff like tests and flowtypes

@Froot very dumb reason for a dumb me 😌 documentation and community. I'm already familiar with laravel and Vue documentation and environment is very similar to it. Another reason is, I am biased towards tools managed and created by neither google nor Facebook 😁

It was really fun, we ended up with phalcon and vue, now waiting for the results but im hoping for a good place :)
We had to make a minimal cms, something ive wanted to do since i was like 12 lmao