@whimsical not a fan of bratwurst. I‘d rather have a Wiener or a 🌭

> putting an image in 2 PDFs

I think I just threw up a little.

@retoor Define what it means to be the last user on devrant ^^

@whimsical

> And yes, diagnosing you as autistic is an attack for sure.

Eggscuse me?!

I‘m too lazy to try to figure it out.
What‘s the trick? ^^

Shit, we might be at the actual death of devrant. Creating rants still not possible.

@whimsical ok ok I got it! You don’t have to repeat it four times! 🤣

@whimsical lol you didn’t really need to ask an LLM to know that I know what I’m talking about when it comes to languages, did you? 😅

And I’m not trusting LLMs to accurately evaluate my expertise based on a few comments that I made.

But thanks anyway ^^

I know you are rage baiting me by saying awesomeest is my best friend. 😛

Anyway, that chatgpt thing on the linkedin is hilarious 🤣

@whimsical I like that it serves as an example that syntactic whitespace and static and safe typing are not contradictory concepts.

Just like Swift serves as an example that elegant and convenient syntax is not contradictory to memory safety and type strictness.

It infuriates me when those things are mixed up and associated with each other just because it’s done that way in the most popular languages.

For example: JS isn’t convenient because it’s unsafe. There is no correlation in that. It’s just convenient in addition to being unsafe.

That might sound obvious but it actually disables most of the arguments being made for JS.

Btw, can’t make new rants atm. Hopefully a temporary issue

@retoor
I took a brief look at nim and overall I like it.

Funny how it takes inspiration from Python for syntax but then goes into a completely different direction, being highly static, strict and compile time focussed, unlike python. 😄

The memory management concept sounds nice enough (haven’t seen the code/syntax yet), but I’m a little bit disappointed that it goes more C++/Rust than Swift.

Still wondering why seemingly no other language does it this way.

@D-4got10-01 that’s disgusting! Billions of little shit morons fighting and reproducing. Poor tortoise!

At least one of us is living the dream as a game dev 😅

But people incapable of reading are everywhere 😄

And another one vibed,
and another one vibed,
Another one vibed to dust! Yeeeah!

@D-4got10-01 the tortoise whose shell we’re all living on?

@whimsical I think my relationship with her is not what you think it is ^^
Anyway, we didn’t have contact for months.

@whimsical lemme try an idea…

Communication requires language.

Language requires common understanding of the meaning of words.

The meaning of words requires common definitions which everyone can agree on.

When you deny the previous premise, you admit the inability to communicate properly.

Now read what jesty wrote.

@whimsical I‘d need more than just a Glühwein for that

@jestdotty I wondered why communicating with you is such a pain in the butt. Well, that explains it a bit.
The past me would try to explain to you how batshit crazy that is, but we are beyond that.

@jestdotty It was a joke.
Optimally you should use definitions which are commonly agreed upon by the majority of people, not some personal ones.
That makes communication much easier.

Piss off, dipshit

@whimsical

> and mama loves hummus and root and the crochet girl

Yeah, but they are not active anymore.

> and jestdotty (…) and that terrible narcistic bitch

Wait, which other terrible narcissistic bitch are you talking about? ;)

Belated Happy Woman’s Day, @retoor! ;)

@jestdotty ok. I’ll just leave that uncommented.

@jestdotty what drugs are you on again?

@jestdotty not sure if I understand the point that you are making but if it’s that being able to do basic math in your head is useful, then I agree.

However the point that I was making was more about the ability to do, let‘s say division of two numbers, at least 3 digits, on paper.
I admit I‘m not able to. I‘d probably have troubles with multiplication as well.
And it’s hard to argue for the utility to have that skill when we all have calculators in our pockets practically everywhere.

Of course, this is different from doing basic math in your head, or even more important, to know how to meaningfully estimate and how to make plausibility checks.

For the one kind of skill, using AI (like chatgpt) is probably justified.
For the other kind, it’s certainly not justified and very worrying.

@D-4got10-01 it’s really interesting.

We used to argue that, why do we need to learn how to do addition (or multiplication, or division) in our heads or on paper, when we can use calculators.
The answer from the teachers was: because we don’t always have a calculator with us.
That turned out to be false.

And that chatgpt argument sounds very similar.
Interesting times ahead. Scary, but interesting.

@D-4got10-01 I watched this as a kid and this episode one of those that I still remember very well.

Human upset. Initiating protocol bitchslap.

> not what they wanted but definitely what they asked for

That’s hilarious 🤣

People started using AI without checking for correctness far too quickly.

Welp, that’s what they deserve I guess.