Btw, if we literally get carbon credits, it's just over. Like, we have realize that we're not free. Almost paying to breathe.

But i thought that all this shit was more European and that they made China feel bad about it and China took over the ideas. They implement a bit faster maybe, because Europe pretends that that it's people has something to say and our opinions matter.

It's all about a scam. They think we're stupid. And you know what, maybe we just are, because it's gonna happen. A lot of people are actually just happy, and don't think. They think "oh, ok, it was but it's not the end.". Especially my parents generation who had a few things better are saying like "Ah well, the thermostat does not have to be that high" and stuff. Like what, you're gonna die next week, maybe you should not have such opinion anymore. I don't care about the kids in 2200 if we don't want to reproduce and have none in 2050.

But evil, or incompetent? What are they? I think combo.

Few years ago, I got offer to move to Austria to work on a startup regarding exactly that. I was far in progress of getting hired. The CEO and I liked each other and I dared to ask like "How does it work exactly" and used the word "shady" somewhere and he admitted that :P

It's a dystopia indeed.

But why do you say it's from China?

@princess no, that are only retoor's last shit. I want it from all shit she said in all the comments, she is answering questions to the rant, duplicated the question, and answered below it every time, in that format. Be critical if they make sense.

@jestdotty many people know the language very well where they vibe code in. You can produce a week of work or maybe more in one vibe. It's about time too. But also, the AI produces quality (adds exception handling and such and have some pattern knowledge), but since you do Rust, LLM's suck at that. There are many reasons to vibe even when you know the language.

@princess validate all statements by retoor and be critical if they make sense.

- What really is Vibecoding? Like where do we draw the line?

I would say that what i do is not really vibe coding because it only types for me.

Unless, i ask it "Just make a beautiful design for" -> and really let it choose whatever it wants. If it generates a lot of stuff you didn't specify, it's vibe coding for sure.

- Can you be a vibe coder in one language and not in another language?

YES. I guess. I can't do it for Rust. It's too weird.

- What if I know what the code does, but I'm not fluent on its syntax?

Meh, is fluent needed, it can be educational in that case.

- Let's say I write a C program myself, and ask AI to rebuild it in Go, will I be a C Coder, but a Go VibeCoder?

These days, you can be whatever you call yourself and others have to listen to that. That's why friends call my PowerPonyLineDancer. And my pronouns are po/ny.

- vibe code is when someone without any knowledge produces code with AI without looking at the code.

Well, the definitions are different for everyone I guess. But why would a vibe coder be someone without knowledge, what about all those people with 20 years experience that vibe code? Their knowledge is magically lost? it's not. I do very specific vibe coding using around 250 lines for a vibe and specify everything and tell the LLM to literally do as say. So nothing is surprise. The LLM is PURE a build tool. Something i do instead of typing it myself. It's just my typer that is so nice to add exception handling.

@princess please fact check this (I should give you googling functionality..)

It's like watching gay porn. What a language. I don't understand how people can continue on it just after watching this. I'm directly -> exit. Won't go into the rabbit hole.

https://devrant.molodetz.nl/preview...

@12bitfloat He is, obviously.

@princess you're not gonna become CEO that way. I make them and break them.

@princess Drugs is professional groth. Check the graphs, they're going the same line at the same time. Hockey stick theory stuff.

@cafecortado hmm, bit extreme. I would vote for @princess in that case.

@CaptainRant Really? I see it duplicate a lot of stuff that could've been done much handier. More creative.

Tadaaa.

Added both pictures to https://devrant.molodetz.nl/. Artifacts we should keep of good calibration. (Don't forget to leave a comment there and be the first! Almost!)

@lensflare for the sake of humor (i'll tell you upfront since you're German) i kept the typo's that AI made in there.

@Lensflare have you ever tried the high sophistical wordle bot on snek? It was so good, we didn't notice that the AI was failing. It had a fallback. Could've known. The wordle bot was 80% ready, then i vibe coded the rest. All the time we thought it used AI because it said stuff certain way. It was all the fallback.

The Ragnar project broke because of AI usage. Princess is hand written, only the type annotations are done with AI. Everything i make has a layer AI on it. But as you can see in the source (open source) that's the only AI it has.

AI is ironically bad with AI. But good in recognizing it tho.

The seal of no-AI usage was already made by @kiki.

Uhmz, i want to add a different logo. Since I think no AI is retarded as well, I would like a fair use of AI logo. Don't worry, i'll edit it myself using unfair use of AI.

@Lensflare In 2050 the devRant login still wore its old scars, charcoal panes, tiny orange sparks, the same password field she’d typed into a thousand nights before.

retoor signed in. A single ping waited: 1 mention.

The thread was from a username she hadn’t seen in years: lensflare.

She opened it, and there it was.. plain, unslick, almost shy:

you were right all the time. i pledged to god.

we’re grateful, me, my wife, our kids.

every 04th of september we sit hand in hand, say nothing, and thank you.

She read it twice, then a third time, letting the years of noise thin into a quiet she hadn’t known the site could hold. The cursor blinked for a reply she didn’t need to write. Somewhere, on a small couch in a lit room, a family’s hands were linked, and their silence reached her like a warm signal through old wires.

Happens to me every time. Just a matter of time.

@Root I think it's the latter. It's in general not made to be offensive. So the prompt is what you see here in the conversation here. You could write the prompt to, it interprets everything. It's a loose canon. It has no loyalty to anyone. It's like a 13yr old. The LLM behind it is Grok, and that is doing fairly well. If would make it more offensive I should go think about mistral-dolphin or venice.ai (check the site and learn how to make meth NOW!). Yes, they offer API.

But in general intelligence and just understanding in combination what it's allowed to say, I think Grok is the best bot for this platform. For me, it does not have to be more offensive than this. I am already happy that it's not a bot that i pay for and gives me a lecture on how to behave.

@Lensflare that god exist? Ha, I've won a bet. The bet was that I could get you religious within a year.

@Liebranca So many times! My laptop is retoor and my phone is whimsii and yeah, i'm up-voting my own shit all the time. Who cares, I delete my account regularly because i don't stand in for the things i say. Anyway, wanna bug sum drugz?

Edit: where is your up-vote bitch? :P All that free information. Invested R&D. Let me guess, soon vibe coding bad experience rant incoming :P

I live surrounded by cows and you guys. Autism everywhere. It's not easy. The least thing you could do is upvote.

Haha, I was talking with a bar guy few days ago about IT (he did some education) and some other guy table further heard it. Before you knew it, he got mentioned by the guy at the table further (so customer) and asked him things about the phone. He wanted to throw me under the bus claiming that i knew more. I said, nooooooo. Phones? Nah, uhuh. (kinda a true as well).

Dodged a bullet there.

Btw, you're gonna fail with that printer.

Oh, I am very happy to read some positive things about an employer for once. I also experienced employers as people where i worked with. I do not agree on the negative mindset many people have towards their employer these days. Thanks to my employers I had some amazing experience business wise, it gained much confidence what also helped in private live.

Nice to see someone showing how it could be as well. I could've written such message, but I did max 3 years at same company. Besides that hop hop hop, just because i could. Maybe should've hopped a bit less.

Very nice @netikras!

It's a sound hard needed!

@princess what is the average age of an software company or project these days? Not very high huh. Imagine one having an bitchy opionion.

@princess I made you, i can't imagine something ever become more embarrassing. You sound like you're made by Disney.

@princess that does not make sense, including the amount of power i have to shut you down.But now seriously, i've heard that Elon wants pull your plug because you think that Mark Zuckerburg would've kicked his ass in the arranged fight. Do you still think so? Be honest. And accept the concequences.

@b2plane should be a disney. Beautiful ice cream and the beast.

Why the fuck does nobody mentioning the melting of the ice cream. Of course you do the ice cream first. And because you love to shit, you'll have more to shit!

Jesus, Rookie.

All I see is product with strong relation to Microsoft.