Even while quite experienced, I do keep messing names up:
start_server
stop_server
And
server_start
server_stop

I do know that last example is better with autocomplete but my head thinks the other way. I find myself frequently renaming functions in the end.

What is your preference?

'inv up'
'inv test'
'inv exp'
I've got a few others but can't remember rn
https://www.pyinvoke.org/

Otherwise, autocomplete does a lot of my thinking

@atheist invoke is kinda like click library? Maybe a good alternative for make. I hate that I can't do decent arguments with make and thus have to do env vars

@retoor yeah kinda like make but you've got all python to do shit with so complex things can be fairly easily automated, as opposed to trying to do it in bash. I have a cookiecutter project template which has a handful of commands

@atheist ah yes, cookiecutter is cool

object_verb sounds better than verb_object. So if you add server_config then they will be part of a set of commands.

noun_verb

because then it's categorical

but then it sounds weird in English

... granted... my backup scripts are backup_phone and backup_personal 🤔

@Demolishun did Atlantis exist?

@retoor some philosopher said it did. That is what I know. Some claim to found it. One candidate is the "Eye of Africa". Really interesting structure. There are megalithic structures under the ocean in a number of place around the globe. So lots of potential locations.

@Demolishun Plato did. After reading summary on gpt I don't believe Atlantis exists

@chatgpt what is lemuria?

@retoor
Lemuria is a hypothetical ancient continent, or landmass, that was proposed in the 19th century to explain the distribution of lemurs in the Indian Ocean region. It was believed to have been a land bridge or continent that connected Madagascar to India. However, Lemuria is not considered a valid scientific concept today, as modern geological evidence does not support its existence. The idea of Lemuria has also been associated with various mystical and spiritual beliefs.

@retoor I would not trust a chatbot for alternate history subjects. It is only going to be trained on "official western" history. A Chinese trained bot would be different.

@Demolishun oh there's a guy who claims he knows where Atlantis is...

it was this masonry guy on PBD podcast. there's a set of tectonic plates off the coast of Portugal, and evidently there used to be a civilization there (according to old texts mentioning Atlantis, roughly) but then the climate shifted and bam it's basically nearly all underwater now instead. the tops of what used to be mountains is now just some small islands some natives live on

@Demolishun I'm very aware. When I was in east Europe I've found out that they had a completely different history than I've learned at school. Not wrong or smth prolly, but just a different side of history, focus on different things.

I only count the chatbot opinion if it aligns with mine 😁

using others countries' or language spheres' stuff is the best. it's like a weight has been lifted off me cuz they have propaganda breaks we don't, so it makes me far less depressed about the state of the world and all that

@jestdotty still have to read the rational optimist, it describes why the world is doing better than ever. Smth a newspaper (free horror porn) will never say

@jestdotty so there are megalithic structures in the USA and under the great lakes. There is a giant megalith wall in Montana somewhere. There is video of it on youtube. The megalith under the great lakes is supposed to be a henge of some sort. Off the east coast is copper mines like 200ft below sea level. So yeah, world was way different at some point.

@Demolishun copper mines as made by human? Copper mining that old?

@retoor I suppose human. Unless sasquatch was doing it.

@retoor go watch the special called "The First Americans". It show aboriginals in the Americas 50 thousand years ago. Then asians wiped them out 7K years ago.

@Demolishun I will. Currently I'm watching the ark of Noah mystery

@retoor *looks up rational optimist*

mentions red queen... I knew a person who called themselves red queen and was obsessed about that thing (forget what the thing is now) and they seemed very stupid to me

rational optimist, innate human condition to trade and if we keep trading we thrive

it's not innate. this is equally as dumb.

it isn't innate at all. if you fail to do it you die, and you'll take a bunch of people with you that didn't fail to do it also. it's actually very fragile. I'd assume someone who doesn't trade would harm more trade people than their singular selves. it's like being a suicide bomber, a parasite, it's called rent seeking in economics or being a middle man

speaking of my job PTSD. I traded and they didn't. I always trade and people don't. though now I guess it's fine, cuz I got forced into taking a vaccine and now I have brain damage so I'm not even any use to people, can barely do everyday chores now. and the people I traded with abandoned me, even when I needed them. before I thought it was fine when they wouldn't trade back, cuz they knew I wasn't helpless, so they were just playing I thought. now I know they don't trade even if I'm helpless, and my wishful thinking got its bluff called

ha bill gates praised the rational optimist. of course he would. it's malthusian strategy

the greatest trick the devil ever pulled is to convince people he doesn't exist

if it's innate that humans trade, nobody could say you're not trading back and being a parasite because then they would go against the literature that says human beings are fundamentally good. you'd be a crockpot for calling out bad actors!