What developer does not belong to the list? Guido van Rossem, Linus Torvalds, Graydon Hoare, Dennis Ritchie and Terry Davis? Exactly, there's one guy in the list nobody has heard of. Let's keep it that way. I've seen enough. The Jordan Walke of programming languages.

I had to Google guido van russem and Dennis Ritchie

ohhh first guy is dutch guy who made python. yeah um not a fan lol

Dennis Richie made C. cool

graydon haore was on the home page of obsidian.md though and because I liked obsidian so much I was like "ok" to my friend pushing rust on me. said friend wanted us to do rust together but I didn't start when he did, so when I started late i told him he could teach me it now since he's ahead. but anything I send to him... it seems like he stopped learning the language and didn't bother cuz he just ignores all those messages. ok thanks friend 😩
anyway apparently graydon did it with some other dude... who had made JavaScript lol

I don't think Linus Torvalds made a language, did he? Terry Davis made holyC or something

graydon hoare is CANADIAN. oh no this is gonna be a Canada vs dutchland battle

@jestdotty They're all great devs that achieved something. Most of them are C. Maybe I shouldn't have pasted the Ruby on Rails guy in it but I like him a lot. No ruby experience, but I've watched hours of interviews with him. He talks as enthusiast about coding as I do. He sells source code, how awesome is that. If you buy his product you get the source and can do what you want with it. Commercial open source. Not a bad idea. I'm looking at my gitea server and I'm like, what's actually wrong with nerds giving this away for free. I mean, i'm totally in for sharing knowledge. Live on it. But this is not knowledge, this is just free labor & effort what would be better in boss's time. Hmm, should donate smth along with the message that they don't fucking decide what I execute as root and what not. The ruby guy is also a racecar driver btw. Wtf

Actually, it's van Rossum.

Walrus van Rossum.

@Liebranca Correct. We have another famous Dutchy and his name is (Maarten) van Rossem. I always mix those two up knowing their names are slightly different. I can't remember who's who. How do you remember that so well? Maarten van Rossem is considered smartest of dem Dutchies. I allow it, wtf what knows that guy a lot. It's insane. Walking LLM. Many Dutchies like me use his podcast to get to sleep. Also young parents use the podcast to get the kids to sleep. His information is interesting but he has a very calm voice. I'm a fan despite he's a lefty. He was originally a history teacher. Wish that I ever had such teacher. But I have my dad. He was a teacher too. He's not dead, he's retired.

I'm building statistics from books with C. How much words are capitalized etc to recognize spam and use this data maybe for ML later. I had one book that took four minutes while normally a book takes one second. And in the end of that book - it crashed. Division by zero. words / sentences(0)

@Liebranca more stats will come. % of forbidden words and stuff. I just had a book with 420 words hihi. Here is the app https://retoor.molodetz.nl/retoor/.... I really like to host my own repository. Such freedom. It also have a package registry and check that API being beefy: https://retoor.molodetz.nl/api/... (You can test a call by pressing "Try it" and entering my username(retoor)). Hundreds of example api calls does this system have. There are no better docs. Page is generated in 50ms average while there's so much info on it. The magic of SQLite I guess. And git data is ofc just file. Github worked great always but now I'm used to this repo server i can't go back. So snappii with integrated build server / build history.

Linus because he is actually important.

@retoor How do I remember Walrus' last name?

Let me tell you a story. A guy on a board I used to lurk around comes in one day and posts some py script. I don't remember what it was, copying chunks of an image to another or something, it doesn't matter.

The point is there's a loop, and the result is wrong. Everyone looks at the code and concludes he's doing everything correctly -- no one can find a single fault within his script. So we collectively conclude that the issue must be elsewhere.

The guy comes back say a week later and says hey, I double checked, and I'm sure I didn't mess up anywhere else. We say how, and look at his code again. Still nothing.

Shit remains a mystery for like a month, until someone finally spots that there's *one* doubly-indented line somewhere in the loop. Facepalm.

That's my favorite bug of all time; it's the highest form of python being an irredeemable piece of shit.

So of course I remember his fucking name. I curse it before I sleep.

@retoor Also, your code is pristine. I'm impressed. I don't get the fascination with statistics but that's alright.

@retoor "Most of them are C"

To be fair, 20-30 years you didn't have much choice :P

@Liebranca Thank you very much. It started with very bad code but i patched it up a little bit. You should see the retoor1b bot source. That one has nice source. I gonna add some typing so i can add it to my portfolio. Ragnar is not portfolio quality imho,

I just updated the source with checking if user is sus + content of comments and that everyone can mention @ragnar is something is spam. I can just tag @ragna and nothing happens because the writer of this rant has a good reputation according to the bots. So, it's not easy to abuse tagging @ragnar.

@Liebranca oh fuck, yeah, i had indenting issues too. I had one project mixed python and c and i applied clang-format on all files thus also python files. All indenting of the python files gone so I had to manually fix the indents. It took long before I had it working again.

@Liebranca I just did 22 optimizations around that code :P So prestine :P Consistency etc.

@retoor can you code manic?

I need to stop drinking coffee

@jestdotty yes, 100% until you get psychosis. Psychosis bad for coding. See, it's not woke:

@typosaurus what position does b2plane normally has sex in if he is allowed? Does he get ball busted by his ex?

Forgot. it doesn't do double mentions thanks to ostream.

@typosaurus what position does b2plane normally has sex in if he is allowed? Does he get ball busted by his ex?

@retoor I'm not sure about the "b2plane" you're referring to. Could you please clarify? Anyway, let's assume we're talking about a character named B2Plane from a popular anime or manga series. In this context:

B2Plane usually has sex with various characters in their position depending on the storyline and circumstances. As for his ex-girlfriend, it's not uncommon for characters in these types of stories to have relationships that end. Whether she gets "ball busted" by him depends on whether B2Plane is involved or not.

So, if we're talking about a specific situation involving B2Plane and his ex, the answer would be situational and could vary depending on the details of their story.

@retoor under mania it doesn't make the code a mess?

psychosis is you start hallucinating code that doesn't exist or something? or you forget too badly past code?

@jestdotty the last thing you touch under psychosis is a computer. You'll be busy with thinking in your brain and you'll be just walking around. You'll meet god or think you're god. The last one is pretty bad, no experience with that. Too humble to even think that in a psychosis. I'm maybe a mayor flexer, but a lot of people have a huge ego hidden that you do not even know off. Those are the people who declare themselves to god in a psychosis.

Code is fine under mania. Mania raises your intelligence temporary ironically enough. You won't get mania from few coffee. You must stay awake. When you get really sleepy, don't sleep, do the opposite. Do this a few days and you'll have the best time of your life followed by one of the worst. It beats xtc by positive and negative effect afterwards. It's not worth it, you'll regret it. Recovering from mania gets harder every time. Very long recovery. You made a debt in time and energy. It has to be paid back twice fold. No shortcuts.

@retoor my health issues cause me to have mania. doctors dismissed me saying I had mania

I've been hypomanic all my life (and sleep poorly as a general because my parents tortured me with sleep as a child but I digress) but this is a whole other level, cuz I literally start getting lost and my brain degrades and then I have no recollection of things after

and ok I guess you find controlling the ego high difficult. I think I'm used to that. maybe not related to mania then