The most unrealistic deadline I got was the project must complete within 16 hours.

Setting: Freelance
Did I accept this? No
Client budget: 10 usd
What is the project? A iOS app which is the a combination of all LLM into one, like a clone of Poe. The API key must use my own because client refused to pay. I negotiate about the project, explain to him why this project, deadline and the budget is not aligned He said " Now everything can be done by using AI, why are yoh cheating me, i will report you" ( I was like report what?) I rejected the gig, then day's later my email junk folder is occupied with racist content and insulting me.

So yea. This is the whole story. This project is doable, just a wrapper. I don't mind if client will pay for all the API , the pay and dealings is logical.

Maybe he should ask the AI to do it

I was given 2 hours for a large task with a payment of $20

@diegolola @retoor

Are you sure that guy isn't some AI himself?

@retoor wow, is that snek? can you give me access again? I kinda lost your og message

can you build me a skyscraper? I'll pay you a hundred euros.

@retoor Upwork

Confirming what @retoor said.

I'm a lurker, there.

The tab w/ snek is often in the background, but if I hear a barrage of the high-pitched 'ping' sound, I'll take a look to see what the commotion is about.

Otherwise I will engage in a conversation every now && then.

@retoor I dmed you on snek

@retoor btw snek is unusable, sorry. I literally can't use it

anything I dare to do, anything at all, like when I dare to just scroll, snek does some weird shit

why did you have to overengineer the frontend part so bad? every downside of snek can be fixed with some simplicity

it's not css that is terrible, it's your collection of footguns

@kiki Are you just using mobile or issues on desktop as well?

@retoor desktop is affected as well. If you have to “support” safari in a chat web app, your frontend is overengineered.

@retoor use ai to make you a good html+css ui, and then you splash some js into the mix! pro tip: chatgpt is very good with bootstrap, better than on its own

@kiki I thought it was pretty common knowledge that safari is the equivalent of Internet Explorer, aka a lot of work to make sure it works the same as every other browser

Speaking of BrowserStack - I'd been using that one for a while when dealing w/ a Facebook port of one of our games at previous job.

Worked well.

But that approach would be advisable solely when doing pro dev.

It would definitely kill the fun portion you're having w/ the project right now, @retoor, but you already know that.

@BordedDev if your layout needs extra effort to make it work in safari, your layout is wrong/it uses stupid hacks instead of proper solutions. safari is in fact less forgiving to bs hacks/shitty historical conventions that aren't spec. this is why it's so slim and fast

@BordedDev everyone touching frontend without any respect to the craft are quick to blame their tools/browsers/standards/other people — everyone but themselves. More often than not, the issue they've spent last 8 hours wrestling with has a simple and straightforward fix they would've discovered themselves if they just dared to read the spec/at least MDN

@BordedDev if your layout is spec, it will always work in safari as-is

this is why I do my frontend in safari to begin with. it's a very good hack detector/early warning system

@donkulator exactly. Safari doesn't scare me in the slightest — when I started doing frontend, I used to walk 1.5 km to my closest Apple Store to test in Safari because I was poor af. Then, I did frontend that had to work in IE 6. I used to code for IE 5.5 just for the fun of it

@kiki No hate, I don't own apple, so will never be able to test safari regularly, but over the years I keep hearing that apple doesn't complete their implantations and shims are needed for safari, just google "safari compatibility issues" and you'll find numerous ones, I was just saying to everyone else Safari (as nice as browser it is from when I have used it) is non-standard - someone even made a website about it https://ios404.com/. Keep up the good fight for a better though :D

@retoor
Here is a list of popular browsers that are most compliant with W3C standards, sorted from most compliant to least compliant based on their support for various standards:

1. Google Chrome
2. Mozilla Firefox
3. Apple Safari
4. Microsoft Edge
5. Opera

Please note that browser compliance with W3C standards can vary, and these rankings may change over time as browsers update their features and support for standards.

@retoor
That could be a factor, as newer databases tend to have more up-to-date information and higher relevancy. It's always a good idea to regularly update and maintain databases to ensure their accuracy and usefulness.

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