Looks like I'ma deploy a new server tonight - a quadcore beast with 16GB of RAM. Let the funsies begin! 😁

Jealous!

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Condor has robot legs. 🤖
Did you build them yourself?

Is that... that thing... a devRant jacket?

@heyheni robot legs? It's well-known that devRant compresses pictures into potatoes, but robot legs of all things? 😂

@C0D4 nah, just regular hoodie 🙈 perhaps I'll buy a devRant jacket in the future 😁

@irene servers need RAM mostly. My first server has 4 cores too and 8GB of RAM, but VM's quickly depleted the latter while the CPU is mostly idling around. So yeah... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@Condor you were suppose to say yes 😏

I’ve been tempted to get one too, but that shipping and lack of sizes 🙁

I'm also curious to know why Servers need RAM more than a good CPU... I guess it depends

You can find perfectly fine intel fab pre production test run server cpus on ebay.

https://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html/...

@irene DBs need a lot of RAM but other server software as well if you need to serve a lot of stuff from RAM, do complex tasks or have a lot of instances of a service.

Sounds like it's got less grunt than a decent laptop...

@irene mostly because servers usually just sit around, not doing too much. But each of them eats its share of RAM. It's much less in containers than it is in VM's though, so I've migrated to that.

Anyway, there's only a select few servers that need a lot of CPU power. Anything with high demand from clients, compilation servers.. and that's where the list ends as far as I know. Most other stuff can do just fine on one virtual core and just sits there until some client needs something, which could be no more than once a minute or something along those lines.. which in terms of CPU ticks is pretty much an eternity, so it's really not doing a whole lot.

@ThomasRedstone but can you buy that decent laptop for €60? 🙃

@PonySlaystation or Plesk, don’t forget that crap

I got 2 Servers each with 32GB RAM and an Intel i7 4790k @4.4GHz (Base 4GHz but overclocked). And it really needs that speed. The RAM is at around 10GB all the time but the CPU can get up to 4.4GHz easily. It can be at around 1GHz too (at night where nearly noone is online).
I'm not talking about a Website here, that's why I think it depends whether RAM or CPU is more important. For a Website I agree, it needs more RAM than CPU power.

Looks ancient to me.

My 10yo machine is an 8core with 32gb ram.
So. Definitely sounds pretty meh 😋

@Condor Ram part is totally true. I'm responsible for keeping a tab on servers which are going to shit and I can tell you that 9 out of 10 times its a ram shortage. (even when servers have few cores)

If it's actually a high load (not enough cores), it's usually the server going out of memory and this somehow has a direct after effect: high load.

@irene Okay, it's a little bit of a stretch since the CPU came out in 2011, but the rest of the machine is pretty old and/or has been replaced since.

*explode*

My sixcore from 2010 has 16 GB. And ECC. And a little green plush troll for enhanced security.

Siiick

@dfox when you say it of all people, I can't help but feel honored! 😁

Little bit of backstory: I bought this thing for €60 from a bloke in my area that happened to be selling the thing. Apparently he's bought it as a decommissioning from a sysadmin that he knew (I don't know nor asked their name.. in hindsight, perhaps I should've) for €100, which I think is still a pretty good deal. I mean, the RAM on its own could probably go for that much.

Currently I've dusted it all out overnight and am now trying to coordinate how I'm going to build this into my network. Probably this Supermicro will be allocated 5TB of the data storage along with one of the 80GB WD Blacks that were previously a RAID-0 array for the system disk in my first server. So effectively a complete division by 2. But I've made a couple of mistakes by omitting the making of backups of the containers.. which will probably cost me a day or two. Fortunately the data still exists, so I can manually move the most important config files for these and those servers into new deployments.

The end result will be a 2-node cluster that should total at 8 cores in 2 sockets on 2 machines, with 24GB of RAM and 10TB of storage. Unfortunately they'll be on the same breaker as my experimental bench network though, as the Supermicro is so noisy that I can't put it anywhere but in my storage room (which my bench is also connected to the breaker of). Maybe I'll move the bench into my bedroom at some point. For one of the servers I do have a battery-backed power supply project in mind though, but my experience with electronics is still a bit lacking when it comes to the design of efficient power supplies, let alone those with multiple voltage rails 😅

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Either way, this server sure will be useful! An old toy it certainly is (I mean it's got an Opteron of all things, so probably over 15 years old) but old doesn't mean bad! Repairability is excellent in the old stuff. Like the power supply that I've just screwed open and just had to undo some screws of to get in. Only after I reassembled the thing, I noticed the sticker saying "deadly voltages, not user-serviceable", and the other usual stuff. Meanwhile even the PlayStation 2 (which comes from that time as well, doesn't it?) required me to undo a big fat solder joint by which the power supply case was held in, haha. If only all consumer electronics would be just a matter of undoing some screws!

Whoops, little mistake in my comment that I've noticed too late: the system drives were a RAID-1 instead of a RAID-0. So currently I've got one of those members in my Supermicro, overwritten as a completely new system, while the other member disk is remaining as a degraded but nonetheless working system disk in the first system. Of course that's all temporary stuff for as long as it's in a transitioning state.. unless I want this to end up in this weekly group rant of course 😜

@Condor total, my laptop was about £500, I'm sure I'll save the difference on electricity soon enough ;-)

@ThomasRedstone solar panels make my electricity cost 0 🙂

Edit: I'd also like to end this discussion on the note that servers and laptops have very different purposes. I've already got a couple of laptops, tablet, PC and so on, so client devices are plenty. What I need most is servers, where it doesn't matter much if they're old or new. But I tend to prefer old as they're (in general) a lot easier to service than the new stuff - idiot-proofing and that sort of stuff, I hate it. Old stuff doesn't have that property as much.

Oh, and one more thing.. if you want to go with power saving, do look into tablets and other mobile devices. The ARM architecture is so efficient that the whole device can run off a couple of watts only, whereas an x86 device can easily require 5x that. When I'm running my laptop off my lab bench power supply, it draws about 20W of power. Whereas a Raspberry Pi would actually be difficult to get to the point where it draws more than 5W.

You call 4x16 beast? ;p

Beast? Specs look more like tiny innocent butterfly.

Huawei RH5885H V3 we’ve got 6 of them, each has roughly 6TB of RAM.

SAP used by local Telco, lots of fried DIMMs

@Condor is it possible for me to deploy small node apps for 35 ₺/month 😇

@melezorus34 should be possible, Scaleway, Hetzner and the likes offer dualcore servers with 2GB of RAM for about that much. Whether your Node apps will run on that depends on their efficiency of course. Storage on VPS's is often only a few dozen GB, so be sure to not rely on frameworks too much.

@Condor what if I said it will just be a html page server, changing pages in special conditions (like, only for favicon, else index.htm)

@melezorus34 then a single core with 1GB RAM should be more than plenty really. If you run something like Ubuntu Server and Nginx on it, perhaps you can even get away with serving your web page from RAM. Aruba Cloud used to provide servers in their IT1 datacenter for €1.21, but they don't do it anymore. Currently Hetzner would be my next choice for a low-cost server like that. If memory serves me right, they offer their small VPS's for €2/m. They do require ID registration though, for them to be able to deflect abusers.

Be sure to also check https://vpsbenchmarks.com/screener/ as it additionally covers a lot of hosters that I don't have any experience with yet.

*cries in powerbill*

@Connor thank you for info! Just one last thing, where should I get a domain? I've found "*.today" domains on godaddy and actually they are cheap.

@melezorus34 avoid godaddy with cheap shiny new tlds. Next year you'll be asked to pay 200+ for renewal.
Have a look at cloudflare domains.
https://cloudflare.com/products/...
Cloudflare Registrar | Cloudflare

@FinlayDaG33k my apartment building has solar panels and everything else is part of the rent, so it remains 0 regardless 🙂

@melezorus34 personally I'm using Namecheap for my .com domain. The billing is quite stable on both .com (regulated by ICANN), and Namecheap alike. The cost of a .com on Namecheap is ~€10/y. Cost aside, I find Namecheap also a lot more professional than GoDaddy with their sexist ads. I really didn't want my domain to be affiliated in any way with those. Despite that, it is a good choice for domains that you'll be keeping for only 1 year though.

@irene same here...